patches Posted October 27, 2012 #1 Posted October 27, 2012 Yes this one deserves it's own topic, just look at the Goatee on this WWII GI, a Cavalryman from the 83rd Infantry Division's 83rd Reconaissnce Troop(Mecz) one Tech Sgt Walter Korszniak. He appears to be photographed while still on active duty, I see no Ruptured Duck.
Chap15 Posted October 27, 2012 #2 Posted October 27, 2012 He must have had a shaving profile. Honestly, I've seen it before where a Soldier will only shave part of his beard yet he had a shaving profile.
patches Posted October 27, 2012 Author #4 Posted October 27, 2012 Perhaps, he was medicaly exempted from shaving as you chap suggest, but for some reason with T/Sgt Korszniak I feel this is deliberate. You Know for some reason when I see Korszniak's thin goatee I'm reminded of this character from Star Trek original series. Lazurus Lets make this a Topic where we can post any and all non standard, going against the times BEARDS on U.S. Serviceman in WWII, in formal portraits like Korszniak's, and informal photographs, or candid shots, I think this will be a fun topic to look for these kind photos for.
Jack's Son Posted October 27, 2012 #5 Posted October 27, 2012 By Hollwood standards.....this is TERRIBLE make-up!! I took a Make-up class in college taught by (AAW) William Tuttle....it was a butt buster!!
Gregory Posted October 27, 2012 #6 Posted October 27, 2012 US pilots (L-R) Lt. Weldon H. Smith & Lt. Richard T. Carlisle, Manila, Luzon, 1941
Gregory Posted October 27, 2012 #7 Posted October 27, 2012 1. Flight surgeon Major William J. Kennard, Clark Airfield, 1941. 2. Lt. Col. Lester J. Maitland, commander of Clark Airfield, 1941.
Buckshot329 Posted October 27, 2012 #8 Posted October 27, 2012 More pictures of Walter Korszniak: Last picture of him all of above pictures are courtesy of Mr. Korszniak's daughter!
Kadet Posted October 27, 2012 #9 Posted October 27, 2012 The last one looks like a Bronze Star presentation ceremony, minus the medal...just the ribbon. I can just imagine the conversation..."congratulations son...but that beard..."
patches Posted October 27, 2012 Author #10 Posted October 27, 2012 These are incredible photos, that you posted, so we see Korzniak did sport this while on active service, fastinating, he looks so damned contemporary, kinda like a bohemian grunge type I wonder how he was allowed to wear this goatee? it would seem that this was allowed to a certain extent.
Jack's Son Posted October 27, 2012 #11 Posted October 27, 2012 To put this thread in perspective, would someone post the regulation regarding facial hair during the war years??
patches Posted October 27, 2012 Author #12 Posted October 27, 2012 Fabulous photos Gregory. Thumbs Up. Anymore that can be found by other members please do post. remember they must be purposely grown beards and goatees, and not serviceman with unshaved beards because of combat, Submariners okay as long as they are not onboard boats, and are back in Dress White/Blues in port.
Buckshot329 Posted October 27, 2012 #13 Posted October 27, 2012 His daughter says she doesn't know how he got away with the goatee but it did had a lot of meaning to him as she once stated he still kept the remnants of it after the war!!!
patches Posted October 29, 2012 Author #14 Posted October 29, 2012 Here's one a GI of the 35th Division at Orleans France August 1944, here we a purposly grown mustashe and goatee, he's the guy with the civilian hat on.
patches Posted October 29, 2012 Author #15 Posted October 29, 2012 This one I seen before in a Book, A Sergeant named Oakly. Division unknown. Again the mustashe and Goatee.
hbtcoveralls Posted October 29, 2012 #16 Posted October 29, 2012 I wish we hadn't started this, now every WWII Re-enactor is going to show up with a beard and moustachioed. Amazing photos I guess if your first Sergeant was okay with it... Tom Bowers
Kadet Posted October 29, 2012 #17 Posted October 29, 2012 Of course there was a time in the US Army when almost everyone wore a beard...it would be interesting to see the WWII era regs. They may have been still allowed in the regs, but infrequently worn. Unless you were a college professor or hobo, beards were way out of fashion in the 1940s. In the Navy, were were allowed to wear beards up in to the early 80s believe it or not....
patches Posted March 4, 2013 Author #18 Posted March 4, 2013 Two more examples, again they are Air Corps, the one younger man is one Vincent J "Budd" Donahue of the Ferrying Command, a Transport pilot, he retired as Full Colonel I guess in the early to middish 1970s. This second one we see Donahue possing with some brother officers, the slightly portly officer on the right we see is also sporting the old mustache and goatee.
Sabrejet Posted March 4, 2013 #19 Posted March 4, 2013 I think the most "luxuriant" growths were to be found on sub-mariners on their return from lengthy sea patrols, during which the requirements for a daily shave was dropped, for obvious reasons. I think it was almost considered a kind of "badge of honor".
TRR Posted March 4, 2013 #21 Posted March 4, 2013 Great pictures! The most we were allowed to go was a few weeks without shaving during the surge in Iraq. My company was living in and clearing villages, so it was an out of sight out of mind sort of situation.
Sabrejet Posted March 4, 2013 #22 Posted March 4, 2013 I read somewhere that facial hair was generally considered a no-no for combat troops in WW2 because its presence prevented a good air-tight seal if a gas mask had to be worn. Same applied to aviators' oxygen masks.
patches Posted March 4, 2013 Author #23 Posted March 4, 2013 My dad, Brittany France, Dec 1944. Woa ho, nice one BEAST, you were holding out on us Your Father, what unit was he in, we just see a smidgen of his shoulder patch
Garandomatic Posted March 5, 2013 #24 Posted March 5, 2013 That fella in his tank puts you in mind of oddball from Kelly's Heroes!
Jarhead8007 Posted March 5, 2013 #25 Posted March 5, 2013 How about Master Gunnery Sergeant Leland "Lou" Diamond, USMC.
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