hueytaxi Posted January 11, 2013 Share #26 Posted January 11, 2013 In 1970, I needed something I could fire from my Kiowa, OH-58A. After earlier atempts I settled on the M2. I cut down the barrel and had our armorer crown it. I then cut off the stock just in back of the "pistol grip". I only fired it in the air on a few occasions other than testing. I occasionally had to cover artillery convoy moves when guns were not available. These guys would get holed up for a while and not want to move. Get sniped at and the convoy would halt. I had a senior commander on board screaming at the battery commander over our radio as I would try to locate the firing. Normally through the canopy I would not see any flashes, but a few full auto bursts from that noisy little gun helped the fire and the guys in the cconvoy thought they had a gunshop protecting them. Darn thing in low light would belch about a foot anfd a half of flame out of it. I would tape one magazine to two inverted for easy changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvage Sailor Posted June 27, 2015 Share #27 Posted June 27, 2015 Check out the Navy Seawolves cut down carbine at 5:30 in this film Full thread on items in the film being discussed on the Ships and Vessels board USS ALBERT DAVID (DE-1050) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota Posted June 27, 2015 Author Share #28 Posted June 27, 2015 Check out the Navy Seawolves cut down carbine at 5:30 in this film Full thread on items in the film being discussed on the Ships and Vessels board USS ALBERT DAVID (DE-1050) Great example of the cut down carbine D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
439th Signal Battalion Posted June 28, 2015 Share #29 Posted June 28, 2015 The VC/NVA used them as well (or perhaps they were captured from the ARVN to begin with and then recaptured again). This carbine was on display at the 199th LIB's Redcatcher Museum while the Brigade was in Vietnam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Flick Posted June 29, 2015 Share #30 Posted June 29, 2015 The VC/NVA used them as well (or perhaps they were captured from the ARVN to begin with and then recaptured again). Here is another one that I noticed on the website of the 15th Field Artillery at: http://www.landscaper.net/theguns.htm#Miscellaneous US weapons The caption says: ".30 cal M2 carbine taken off a dead Sapper. Photo: Jim Baggett." Regards, Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzkrieg gsd Posted July 3, 2015 Share #31 Posted July 3, 2015 What a waste of a good rifle why would this ever be done in the first place. The member who said he used his in his chopper had a need for a small weapon I agree. But why not get a greese gun there had to be plenty of them around in Nam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garandomatic Posted July 3, 2015 Share #32 Posted July 3, 2015 Maybe they didn't like the cyclic rate of a grease gun. I'd also imagine carbines would be extremely common and easy to get a hold of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M7bayonet Posted July 8, 2015 Share #33 Posted July 8, 2015 A couple years ago I picked up a Universal M1 Enforcer at a local gun show. It had a sling attached to it and 2 30 road magazines held together with a jungle clip. It had been used during the course of a bank robbery in Bensalem, PA. and carried on the sling under a 3/4 length trenchcoat. Bensalem, unlike most municipalities, sell guns used in crimes after the court case is closed to registered gun dealers for resale. Cost me $400 and I only use it for home defense in Philadelphia. It is fun to shoot, but if you are trying to hit something with it other than an intruder coming up your steps, forget it. And it is registered as a pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitzkrieg gsd Posted July 12, 2015 Share #34 Posted July 12, 2015 See that's what I'm saying you can't hit nothing with a weapon like that. Just like the member above says in his post they just are not accurate weapons all cut up. There other guns out there that were available at the time that would be accurate enough for the job at hand. It's just a solution to a problem that don't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retread12345 Posted December 11, 2015 Share #35 Posted December 11, 2015 I think I remember seeing a photo of GEN. SCHWARTZKOPF in RVN holding one of these sawed off carbines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtepak6 Posted December 11, 2015 Share #36 Posted December 11, 2015 Darby (Ronnie in post #15), good call! Here's a photo of the cut-down carbine and jacket Hearst wore during one of the armed robberies. Dale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccyooper Posted December 11, 2015 Share #37 Posted December 11, 2015 Inland is going to start selling them in the spring as a pistol to accompany their carbine and paratooper models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted December 12, 2015 Share #38 Posted December 12, 2015 Thanks Dale. I paid a lot of attention to that case back then. I was right out of high school and was intrigued by that entire episode. Ronnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronny67 Posted December 12, 2015 Share #39 Posted December 12, 2015 Looks like they all had them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronny67 Posted December 12, 2015 Share #40 Posted December 12, 2015 one more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Posted December 13, 2015 Share #41 Posted December 13, 2015 Looks like you're right Ronny. Ronnie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFMike Posted December 16, 2015 Share #42 Posted December 16, 2015 Funny the concepts folks get about historical situations. 99% of the GIs, even in the field had no opportunity or authorization to acquire exotic or personal weapons of any sort. You just don't decide you're going to get a grease gun or a Carbine or what ever. SF and a lot of recon types had some choices as did some of the pilots who chipped in. Average GI got what was handed to him and that was the story. M2 Carbines were some of the most common pieces seen there in the hands of the Viets. My camp strikers were carrying them and Garands and .30 cals in 1968. I was issued a new in the bos M2 in 1968 and had to carry it. A lot of combat in heavy growth was just a few feet-could not see any farther. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1SG_1st_Cav Posted December 18, 2015 Share #43 Posted December 18, 2015 What a waste of a great carbine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Flick Posted March 24, 2018 Share #44 Posted March 24, 2018 I ran across this excellent image and thought it would be appropriate to add to this old thread. Loach aviators with cut down stock M1 Carbine. (Photo credit to Bill Buffington, the guy on the left.) Regards, Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlymb Posted April 3, 2018 Share #45 Posted April 3, 2018 A cut-down M1 carbine, early Duckhunter poncho liner, NVA backpack, Tigerstripe cammo and a puppy, all in 1 photo. I think I ticked all the boxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M1Garandy Posted April 3, 2018 Share #46 Posted April 3, 2018 I think that is an M1A1 Carbine with the wire portion of the stock removed. 95A08DF2-5ED6-40DA-97B3-920D11ADDBB8.jpeg A cut-down M1 carbine, early Duckhunter poncho liner, NVA backpack, Tigerstripe cammo and a puppy, all in 1 photo. I think I ticked all the boxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badash5946 Posted April 3, 2018 Share #47 Posted April 3, 2018 The two pictured magazines are from the estate of a Lt General. While a brigade commander in Vietnam, the General carried a sawed off M2 carbine under the seat of his helicopter and frequently fired it out the window at VC and NVA. The stock was sawed off leaving only a pistol grip and the barrel was only 10 inches long. The magazines, which have been loaded since Vietnam, remained in the possession of the General's son, a West Point grad and Green Beret who served with FANK during the closing years of the Vietnam War.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal30M1 Posted April 6, 2018 Share #48 Posted April 6, 2018 I think I remember seeing a photo of GEN. SCHWARTZKOPF in RVN holding one of these sawed off carbines. Roger that. This was all I could find but I remember reading in his biography that he carried a cut down M2. They shape of the pistol grip looks like from an M1A1 sans wire stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garandomatic Posted April 6, 2018 Share #49 Posted April 6, 2018 Sure looks like an M1A1 stock... Might have an M2 action in it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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