Justin B. Posted January 22, 2015 Share #101 Posted January 22, 2015 I'm with you, never authorized as far as I can tell. Justin B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMaddoxUSMC Posted January 22, 2015 Share #102 Posted January 22, 2015 Perhaps they were just experimenting with different configurations right before they made the final decisions on how to reorganize the ranks or something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMaddoxUSMC Posted February 6, 2015 Share #103 Posted February 6, 2015 Also just a note, on Post 77 (The Master Gunnery Sergeant with TWO rockers) that chevron has been modified. It was at one time a regular MGySgt chevron with four rockers but someone took scissors and removed the lower two. You can tell by the thickness of the chevrons and rockers as on the current insignia for all E-9 ranks they are slightly narrower allowing the overall dimensions to be about the same as the E-8 ranks. Also since it has the cut edge this could be from 1959-1999. Thats about the time they Corps started using merrowed edges exclusively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMaddoxUSMC Posted November 4, 2015 Share #104 Posted November 4, 2015 I thought I would show a couple of shots showing some of the different sizes on the seem to seem chevrons. Two Sergeant Major's and a Gunnery Sergeant: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMaddoxUSMC Posted November 4, 2015 Share #105 Posted November 4, 2015 The first image is all three side by side. A standard SgtMaj (fairly common) seem-to-seem chevron (8 inches across by 8 inches high), a SgtMaj with the applied rockers and angled chevrons (9.5 inches at it's widest point by 7.5 inches high) and a seem-to-seem Gunnery Sergeant (10 inches across and 7.5 inches high). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMaddoxUSMC Posted November 4, 2015 Share #106 Posted November 4, 2015 Here are the SgtMaj chevrons one on top of another: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMaddoxUSMC Posted November 4, 2015 Share #107 Posted November 4, 2015 And finally, the second type SgtMaj on top of the GySgt chevron (removed the center just for the photo). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMaddoxUSMC Posted February 23, 2016 Share #108 Posted February 23, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Checkur6 Posted March 19, 2016 Share #110 Posted March 19, 2016 Current SMMC with other services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMaddoxUSMC Posted March 19, 2016 Share #111 Posted March 19, 2016 Think your photos forgot to attach Checkur6! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mtlh2010 Posted March 20, 2016 Share #112 Posted March 20, 2016 Found this on Archive.org..... uSMC ranks & grades 1775 - 1969..... Has a few nice pics..... Love the Aug. '36 Letherneck coverpage https://archive.org/details/RanksAndGrades1775-1969 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Ragan Posted March 21, 2016 Share #113 Posted March 21, 2016 I've had this booklet for many years. Too bad there are so few illustrations of chevrons in it. Still a good reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMaddoxUSMC Posted November 17, 2016 Share #114 Posted November 17, 2016 USMC bevo style chevrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMaddoxUSMC Posted February 1, 2017 Share #115 Posted February 1, 2017 recently got this surprise in a large group of chevrons.. it is a current style SgtMaj chevron but I have never seen one like this before.. The star in the center is smaller that normal and also the stripes are all 1/2" wide as you would find on chevrons up to E-8.. Normally for E-9 chevrons, the stripes reduce to 3/8" in width as to maintain the same overall dimensions on the chevron. Anyone ever seen this before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Ragan Posted February 1, 2017 Share #116 Posted February 1, 2017 That wide stripe Sgt. Major is a real beauty. I've never seen one before with the wide stripes. Something else to look for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMaddoxUSMC Posted February 1, 2017 Share #117 Posted February 1, 2017 here is a photo for comparison.. You can see how the stripes on the NORMAL SgtMaj's reduce down to 3/8" from the E-8's 1/2" stripes as to maintain the same overall height and width of the rank itself. Then on my oddball SgtMaj, the stripes retain their 1/2" width and make the overall chevron about a half inch longer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMaddoxUSMC Posted February 10, 2017 Share #118 Posted February 10, 2017 I have a question for all you chevron gurus... I have seen these style chevrons pretty often and have always written them off as bad repros due to the backing material, huge gaps between stripes, and the overall construction. I've also never seen any photos of these particular chevrons being worn. These photos (from a current ebay auction) show the chevrons with attached Wosk tags and I just can't decide what to make of them... Anyone have any input? Even with the tags, they just don't sit right with me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lee Ragan Posted February 10, 2017 Share #120 Posted February 10, 2017 I have a question for all you chevron gurus... I have seen these style chevrons pretty often and have always written them off as bad repros due to the backing material, huge gaps between stripes, and the overall construction. I've also never seen any photos of these particular chevrons being worn. These photos (from a current ebay auction) show the chevrons with attached Wosk tags and I just can't decide what to make of them... Anyone have any input? Even with the tags, they just don't sit right with me.. s-l1600.jpg They just look like a manufacturers variation to me. I have seen photos of USMC Technical Sergeants before, but really don't remember if they were in blues or khaki uniforms. Seems like a lot of these made with bullion stripes are not letter perfect. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMaddoxUSMC Posted February 11, 2017 Share #121 Posted February 11, 2017 Have you ever seen any photos from the period of Marines wearing their dress uniform which show chevrons with gaps that big between the stripes though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMaddoxUSMC Posted February 11, 2017 Share #122 Posted February 11, 2017 And what bullion stripes are you talking about? I have never seen any USMC ranks made with bullion other than the custom Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps chevrons which I have on my display. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Ragan Posted February 11, 2017 Share #123 Posted February 11, 2017 And what bullion stripes are you talking about? I have never seen any USMC ranks made with bullion other than the custom Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps chevrons which I have on my display. I thought the big seam to seam chevrons made for blues had bullion stripes. They don't appear to be cotton cloth. Maybe I'm mistaken on those. As to the spacing not being evenly, I must have been thinking of WWI era Army chevrons. Don't recall seeing any Marines with the stripes you describe. Again, I must have been thinking of Army chevrons from back then. Sorry for the confusion. That can happen when ya get old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMaddoxUSMC Posted February 17, 2017 Share #124 Posted February 17, 2017 Here are some photos I just took of a SSgt chevron which we know is authentic next to a (repro?) chevron. I honestly think someone just attached some Wosk tags to the ones in the auction photos above to make people think they are period. Here are some measurement comparisons, authentic on the left, probable fake on the right:Stripe width:Just over 7/16" VS just under 3/8"Spacing between stripes:1/8" VS 5/16"Also, the second stripes seem to have a little bit of stuffing inside the stripes giving them a slight rounded or bulged appearance. It could also just be the lace used on these pieces. One of these days. I will dissect one and see what's inside.The ranks in these photos are actual size: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SgtMaddoxUSMC Posted February 17, 2017 Share #125 Posted February 17, 2017 And of course, the second most "wrong" feeling aspect of these chevrons, is the backing material, a rigid plastic mesh.reverse: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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