Armed 2 tha Teeth Posted October 3, 2012 Share #1 Posted October 3, 2012 I am working on a tanker display and I am trying to figure out what would be correct for tanker crewmen and a commanders during 1945. I believe that crewmen should have HS-18 headsets and the commander should have the HS-18 headset and a T-17-B microphone. What communication equipment would crewmen use if they were wearing the M1 helmet instead of the M1938 helmet? I've read here that it is unlikely that the HS-16/U headset was used. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...showtopic=52675 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted October 3, 2012 Share #2 Posted October 3, 2012 Tankers' helmets were fitted with standard R-14 receivers. I can't recall ever seeing a tanker in an M1 helmet per se...but an M1 shell over the tanker helmet...or sometimes an M3 or, later, the M4A2 flak helmet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted October 3, 2012 Share #3 Posted October 3, 2012 HS-33 headset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1944 Posted October 3, 2012 Share #4 Posted October 3, 2012 I agree with Ian, as he has said there the R-14 Head Set was Issued for the M-1938 Tanker Helmet ! with its T-30-S Neck Piece Throat Mic which connected into the SW-141 Tanker Switch then after that the T-45 Tanker Mouth Piece Mic was developed later on which was a better Noise Blanker Mic than is previous T-30 Neck Piece Mic. I have attached some photos for reference also :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1944 Posted October 3, 2012 Share #5 Posted October 3, 2012 T-30-S Throat Mic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1944 Posted October 3, 2012 Share #6 Posted October 3, 2012 T-45 Tanker Mouth Mic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herky Posted March 17, 2015 Share #7 Posted March 17, 2015 Hi, I am busy right now trying to complete a WW2 tanker helmet. I still need a SW-141V switch. I have found somebody selling SW-141U switches. Is there a difference between /V and /U? Were they both used in tanks or is the /U for aviation? thanks, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rambob Posted March 18, 2015 Share #8 Posted March 18, 2015 Here is the talker switch with both the leather and cotton cloth lanyards. I am also posting a picture of my tanker helmet decked out with communication gear. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeper704 Posted March 18, 2015 Share #9 Posted March 18, 2015 Hi, I am busy right now trying to complete a WW2 tanker helmet. I still need a SW-141V switch. I have found somebody selling SW-141U switches. Is there a difference between /V and /U? Were they both used in tanks or is the /U for aviation? thanks, Dan I think the /V and /U stand for the different makers of this switch(?). Erwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indexred Posted March 18, 2015 Share #10 Posted March 18, 2015 As an alternative to the HS-18 and SW-141, some tank crewmen used the HS-30. Creighton Abrams (pictured below) used this headset. I’m not sure why he favored it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indexred Posted March 18, 2015 Share #11 Posted March 18, 2015 Somewhere I've seen a better photo of LTC Abrams wearing an HS-30, but I can't locate it at the moment. Here's painting however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Willaert Posted March 18, 2015 Share #12 Posted March 18, 2015 Another tanker using the HS-30, Czechoslovakia 1945 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indexred Posted March 18, 2015 Share #13 Posted March 18, 2015 Nice photo Johan! Love that setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Willaert Posted March 18, 2015 Share #14 Posted March 18, 2015 Thanks, here's the full picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indexred Posted March 18, 2015 Share #15 Posted March 18, 2015 Johan, do you know the unit depicted in the photo? 16th Armored Division? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Willaert Posted March 18, 2015 Share #16 Posted March 18, 2015 Will check tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Willaert Posted March 18, 2015 Share #17 Posted March 18, 2015 Picture is from the 2005 Czech book: And along came freedom Caption of the picture says it's 4AD in Strakonice, May 6th, 1945 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herky Posted March 18, 2015 Share #18 Posted March 18, 2015 Here is the talker switch with both the leather and cotton cloth lanyards. I am also posting a picture of my tanker helmet decked out with communication gear. Bob Thank you for your reply Bob. Very nice display But my question still stands: is there a difference between a SW-141V and a SW-141U? thanks, Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabreeze Posted March 18, 2015 Share #19 Posted March 18, 2015 Thank you for your reply Bob. Very nice display But my question still stands: is there a difference between a SW-141V and a SW-141U? thanks, Dan Dan, there is no difference. The letters indicate the mfg. I used to know who the various letters stand for , but there's a bunch of them. They use the same letter code on the throat mics so if you see one in a box you'll be able to tell. -- Breezy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeper704 Posted March 19, 2015 Share #20 Posted March 19, 2015 But my question still stands: is there a difference between a SW-141V and a SW-141U? I think the /V and /U stand for the different makers of this switch(?). Erwin Your question was answered. Maybe I should not have added the (?). Erwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herky Posted March 19, 2015 Share #21 Posted March 19, 2015 Dan, there is no difference. The letters indicate the mfg. I used to know who the various letters stand for , but there's a bunch of them. They use the same letter code on the throat mics so if you see one in a box you'll be able to tell. -- Breezy Thanks Breezy and Erwin. Sorry Erwin, I misinterpreted your answer due to the (?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeper704 Posted March 19, 2015 Share #22 Posted March 19, 2015 No problem, was answering from work so could not check for certainty. Erwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browninggunner688 Posted March 21, 2015 Share #23 Posted March 21, 2015 I have a little lisf of letter codes that I have gathered up over the years, they are for the T 30 throat mic, but from what I can gather the same letter code is used on different items of kit, I could be wrong though. A- Western electric co, inc B- Western electric co, inc C- Micro Co, Univ CA F- Western electric co, inc H- Kellogg M- Universal microphone Co Q- Western electric co, inc R- Kellogg S- Universal microphone co V- Shure Bros As I said these are for the T-30 throat mic, I can't find any information about the missing codes, or whether these were even produced with the missing codes, maybe some one has this information. Nice set ups by the way, wish mine were not packed away so I could post some pics. Nick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeper704 Posted March 21, 2015 Share #24 Posted March 21, 2015 Yes, that's the list I was looking for too and I am positive these codes were used on other equipment - like the SW141 - too. The SW141 in my collection have the "V". I think I have seen the switches without the code as well. Erwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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