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Though not a member of a Landing Party, this is a very nice studio portait of a 1890s Sailor with a M1895 Remington-Lee Straight Pull Navy Rifle, the Sailors ship or unit is unknown, but we can just make out SQUADRON on his cap tally, what kind of units had Squadron in their title in those days?

 

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At the time of the Spanish-American War the United States did not have a concentrated battle fleet, but a number of scattered squadrons, North Atlantic, Asiatic, Pacific, etc. It wasn't until about 1902-03 that they began changing the names to Fleets.

 

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At the time of the Spanish-American War the United States did not have a concentrated battle fleet, but a number of scattered squadrons, North Atlantic, Asiatic, Pacific, etc. It wasn't until about 1902-03 that they began changing the names to Fleets.

 

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Yes but would not a sailor just wear his ships tally rather then a high command tally? could it be for somekind of torpeado boot squadron?

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If he was assigned to the Squadron staff and not the ship, that's what he would have worn. While difficult to see the cap talley, (gets all pixely when I try to enlarge it) it does appear to be something-tic (or -fic) Squadron.

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If he was assigned to the Squadron staff and not the ship, that's what he would have worn. While difficult to see the cap talley, (gets all pixely when I try to enlarge it) it does appear to be something-tic (or -fic) Squadron.

 

 

Right, being assigned ashore in the HQ of a Squadron or also like being a Yard Bird at a Yard that berthed some vessels of the say, Atlantic Squadron, correct? It's also important to note that the site this comes from states that the Sailor maybe in fact only a resident of Newport RI, home on leave, and droped in for a portrait while home, don't think there was a Navy Yard in Newport only provenance, would that be correct?

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Though not a member of a Landing Party, this is a very nice studio portait of a 1890s Sailor with a M1895 Remington-Lee Straight Pull Navy Rifle,

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That is actually a Winchester-Lee 6mm Straight Pull Rifle. The Remington-Lee was a rotating bolt rifle intended for army use and was chambered in the army's then-standard 30-40 cartridge. Here is a nice overview of the rifle: http://www.forgottenweapons.com/1899-remington-lee-magazine-rifle/

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Yardbird, a term genrally reserved for the civilian workers and tradesmen in a naval shipyard or I suppose a civilian one.

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Yardbird, a term genrally reserved for the civilian workers and tradesmen in a naval shipyard or I suppose a civilian one.

 

Was it for a civilian? My error, thank's for the correction.

 

@Annihilator, thank's to you for the clarification, I admit up not up at this moment on rifles of the late 19th century, this was what was in the description of this photo, and I copied it, I guess the person is not up on his 19th century rifles either :lol: thank's again for pointing the correct rifle here and the like for it.

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Love it!

Well, actually, considering that in the beginning, there were VERY few Marines involved in landings, and it was the Sailors job, I think it probably went the other way. Some one in the Navy decided that they had spent a lot of money training Sailors to operate ships, and they were much too valuable to waste on landing parties. So, they said, "Hay, we have these Marines standing around looking pretty, eating up the chow and drinking the fresh water, lets send more of them". The Marines respoonded with "But, we guard the Brig, and make sure the nasty Sailors don't infest Officers country"! And Some Smart Navy guy, (most likely a Chief) said "Hay, you're Marines, RIFLEMEN FIRST!" :rolleyes: The Marines thought "WOW, that's a pretty nifty saying, and adopted it as their own. :thumbsup: Then the Marines said, "Well, since we're going to be taking over this landing party thing, we're gonna need more Marines". So they went out and got some more. Then they needed ships to haul them around, and a spiffy song to sing, and History was made. ;)

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Was it for a civilian? My error, thank's for the correction.

 

@Annihilator, thank's to you for the clarification, I admit up not up at this moment on rifles of the late 19th century, this was what was in the description of this photo, and I copied it, I guess the person is not up on his 19th century rifles either :lol: thank's again for pointing the correct rifle here and the like for it.

You are very welcome Patches. That's what the forum is all about.

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vostoktrading

Not really a landing party but a humanitarian assistance effort in Yokohama Japan after the 1923 earthquake.

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Another interesting photo of a sailor on land. This is Manila in December 1941. I can't make out what is written on his tin hat.

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Another interesting photo of a sailor on land. This is Manila in December 1941. I can't make out what is written on his tin hat.

 

An interesting one, what color is his uniform? with the all Black rate it appears like the Gray type, but the Gray type was a Wartime Issue was it not, like 43 on?

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P-40Warhawk

 

An interesting one, what color is his uniform? with the all Black rate it appears like the Gray type, but the Gray type was a Wartime Issue was it not, like 43 on?

 

It looks like a set of whites that have been dyed.

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I'm thinking dyed whites too. I have come across two examples of whites being dyed a dark tan or khaki sort of color, rate and all, for landing party use. One was from a North Africa vet.

 

The helmet might just have a poorly done "USN" on it. can't tell for sure.

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Dyed Whites, that will make sense, thank's guys, as too the marking on the Tin Hat, looking at it further, I agree with subsystem, most likely a quick slightly sloppy application of USN.

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