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Had a gun show today and with nothing better to do, I decided to sneak in and see what was stirring. I stopped by an old friends table. While talking to him, a guy showed up with a bag of bayonets and knives. We were digging through the bag and haggling prices when this little beauty walked up. I didn't have my glasses, so I couldn't see much of the detail. I thought it was a later model .38 in M3 holster as I couldn't see any proof marks or ordnance property marks. I thought it would make a good display gun for my early 80's aviator set-up as these are what we carried when I first got in.

When I got home and got my glasses on, things started to look better as I noticed the V in the serial number and then found the property mark on the top strap. I emailed Charlie Flick and he let me know that it was made in May 44, probably a Navy model. I am rather pleased, the holster really matches the pistol, so I figure it a double score.

 

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Tonight, after getting it documented, it took it's place among it's new bretheren

 

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Now, just need to find a lanyard and get my Navy cartridge pouch back again.

 

Thanks for the Help Charlie


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Love them Victory's. Nice grab, Hawk! How come things work out for you when you look at stuff without glasses? Usually that makes stuff happen in the seller's favor!!

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I like your pistol display hawkdriver, do you have the dowels angled or straight in? I went to the show this afternoon but didn't see much I needed or wanted.

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Great pick up, Hawkdriver! I really love that holster too. I have a pre-war (1922) version of this revolver and would love to have a Victory model. Congrats!

 

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Nice pre-safety version. You should be able to find a lanyard ring for it easily.

 

I would be interested in knowing how you were able to date the gun. You have a resource for that?

 

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Yes, my information came from our own member, Charlie Flick. He was quite helpful and informative and seems to have a soft spot for these pistols. Contact him and give him your number and he will tell you when and whom it was made for.

As for the lanyard ring, I found a guy on gunbroker.com selling them and had several.


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I have a couple of those, one being almost identical. One is a 1942, 4" barrel in .38 spl & the other is a 1940, 5" barrel in .38 S&W.The pitting is most likely from living in the leather holster. Mine has some as well. I had a 3rd one, but sold it. Someone buggered it all up.

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Hawk......Thanks for the close-ups! Overall the piece is in fine shape, and a great addition. Good luck with your bit of fine tuning!

 

Thanks, now it has put a bug in me to find a 1917 .45. Might as well collect the entire group now!

 

M1marksman, I also have a 5", but it has the British proof marks. Here they are together.

 

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Hawk I love it the holster does make it a double score your rite. I have wanted to add one of these to my collection for a while. Looked at one at the last SOS guy had a few nice one and plenty of knowledge about them wish I could remember his name. If you don't mind me asking what did you have to give for the rig? The dealer at the show wanted between 6 and 8 hundred depending on condition and model. But the last time I was looking at them was a couple years before and you could get a nice one for six hundred. So I was wondering if they have gone up in value or was it just dealer mark up at the SOS or both? Thanks for showing it to us I really like it and hope to pick one up myself soon. Just need to figure out what I should pay for one about what you just got here.

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If you don't mind me asking what did you have to give for the rig? The dealer at the show wanted between 6 and 8 hundred depending on condition and model.

 

Normally, I wouldn't talk price, because if I ever decided to sell them, then folk will throw it back at you, "Well, you only paid X for it" but, I doubt I will ever get rid of these, so here goes.

The 4", I paid $375 for the pistol and holster, but that was a little bit of family and friends price as I got it from a fellow collector. He was originally asking $450 for it. I've had the 5" Brit marked for a little while and I paid $525 for it.

I hope that helps.


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Thanks Hawkmfor sharing that with me I know how it is taking prices. But I had a feeling you where keeping these and it was worth asking. I don't really know anyone who's into these old revolvers who have bought one I could ask. Anyway I was thinking if I could get a nice one for 450 I would feel good about it. The one you just got with the holster I would pay that for any day I had the money. Good to know I can get one for that kind of money makes me feel better. Like your pistol a lot let me know how it shoots if you plan on taking her to the range. I know some of you guys don't shoot your collector guns but I'm the other guy that does.

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I will shoot it at some time, but I rarely shoot my military pieces anymore. I just don't want to take the chance of blowing one up by accident. To many stories of splintered receivers and that would make me cry.

 

I have a small collection of early Colt DAs and they are all very soft shooters with cowboy-type loads. I worry some about the springs, they're hard to find for the M1892/94/96/01/03s, but the quality of the pre-to-early WWII pistols is just not to be found today and they are very solid sidearms.

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Had a gun show today and with nothing better to do, I decided to sneak in and see what was stirring. I stopped by an old friends table. While talking to him, a guy showed up with a bag of bayonets and knives. We were digging through the bag and haggling prices when this little beauty walked up. I didn't have my glasses, so I couldn't see much of the detail. I thought it was a later model .38 in M3 holster as I couldn't see any proof marks or ordnance property marks. I thought it would make a good display gun for my early 80's aviator set-up as these are what we carried when I first got in.

When I got home and got my glasses on, things started to look better as I noticed the V in the serial number and then found the property mark on the top strap. I emailed Charlie Flick and he let me know that it was made in May 44, probably a Navy model. I am rather pleased, the holster really matches the pistol, so I figure it a double score.

 

fc1nk3.jpg

 

wkju3s.jpg

 

1i1ky0.jpg

 

Tonight, after getting it documented, it took it's place among it's new bretheren

 

24pc708.jpg

 

Now, just need to find a lanyard and get my Navy cartridge pouch back again.

 

Thanks for the Help Charlie

 

I'd really like to see/know more about that Beretta with the rack number. Maybe a new thread?

 

Thanks,

Kevin Williams

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Hawk I understand what you mean about being scared to shoot them. I try only to buy one that I feel are still in good enough shape to fire. I try to find low pressure rounds to witch isn't always easy these days no +p rounds for sure. If you do decide to fire her I would like to know about accurate she is. Always wanted to know what kind of performance you could get out of these old pistols. Make sure you post a pic of the target after a few rounds off the bench. Thanks for showing it to me anyway

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