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Stop being tyrannical about authenticity!

 

I understand the need to look period correct. I used to do revolutionary war reenactments, and we know we are supposed to have long hair pulled back into a que, that is powdered to heck. But do you think a police department or the military is gonna allow a soldier to let his hair grow that long? No. Not every person that is going to do WWII reenacting is going to be able to have a the proper WWII era haircut. So why have these statements if your hair is not in keeping with WWII regulations then you will be asked to leave? Even with eyeglasses sometimes a exception needs to be made, like people who have bad eyes, you think WWII era frames could handle thick lenses?

 

To me reenacting is about having some fun with your friends on a weekend, and it is about teaching the general public about what life was like in that period of time. You gotta know what you are talking about, and be dressed properly. Im sorry, but these "tactical battles" where you run around in the woods and shoot at each other really doesnt teach the public anything, I get enough of running around in the woods shooting at each other on Drill Weekend.

 

I also disagree with facial hair policies. Im not saying people should show up like ZZ Top kind of beards, but combat soldiers in the US, British, and German armies did grow facial hair when they were in the field. I've also seen a WWII dated photograph of a US Air Corpsman in dress uniform with a neatly trimmed goatee! If you are portraying a Garrison soldier I could see being clean shaven, but a field/ combat soldier I would disagree. Also, food for thought, if someone came to a reenactment dressed in the proper uniform for a French Pioneer, correct kit, weapon etc, and he had a beard (which regulations allow) would you tell him to leave?

 

Sorry to vent....

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I think most of the 'authenticity' is nothing more that bragging. 'I have an authentic $1500 zeltbahn.... yours must be too! I cannot allow your repop to look better than mine! blah blah blah".

 

The powers that be at Gross Deutchland told me that they have a committee that sets authenticity.... and that period photos are not to be trusted. Whatever.

 

If I rip a pair of wool pants, or have a wrinkled shirt, oh well.. thats what field sojers wear. I completely agree for a 'living history' event that you need to be in the right context for your uniform.... but most of the ppl who yell the loudest about being dressed improperly are the ones that site in the barracks and don't go in the field.

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Destroying a WWII barrel so the blank adapter doesn't show is damn retarded. Unless they start making repro M1's to use, if I find out you tapped a vintage barrel I'm slapping you like Patton. Putting a 'rat barrel' on a vintage firearm is even a dumber idea.

 

Only carbines have an obtrusive blank adapter, because no one has made anything better. There are 'hollywood' Garand blank adapters that are parked and only add 9/16ths of an inch to a barrel. If you can see it from 10 feet then you are very, very good.

 

Stop using propane MGs.. now THAT I can get behind.

 

PFarber -

 

With all due respect, please point out to me where exactly in my statement I mentioned tapping an original WWII barrel? Not every M1 is of WWII vintage and even one that is likely does not have its original WWII barrel on it and if it does, one might well ask why someone is using an artifact like that at a reenactment?

 

Also, please tell me why you think it is stupid to put a rat barrel on a vintage firearm and tap it? I see no possible reason why that is not a completely "do-able" easy solution and takes the authenticity level to the next level? Or, do you think it is equally as stupid to place a reproduction canteen, for example, on an original WWII cartridge belt rather than use a Vietnam dated canteen? Seems to me whether a piece of kit is original or reproduction should not matter as much as looking the part correctly.

 

Further, I agree with you that there is nothing better vis a vis the M1 Carbine to blank adapt it with, but that in itself does not invalidate my argument. In fact, to my mind it makes it all the more reason to tap the barrel of a Carbine. I don't know about you, but from where I am sitting at events there are one heck of a lot of M1 Carbines out there and seeing little red things that look like something out of Buck Rodgers certainly doesn't add to the authenticity of an event.

 

Lastly, don't know how long you have been doing this hobby, but I have been doing so for over 25 years - Yes, I can tell a external BA from well over ten feet, not only the extra length but the lack of the locking nut takes away a very distinctive look from the front of an M1 Garand. Again, if this were a $1,000 issue or, honestly, even a couple hundred dollar issue I likely wouldn't say anything, but it isn't. It can be done cheaply and relatively quickly.

 

Again, my point is after all the other money that one has spent what is a extra few dollars and perhaps some extra time? I am certainly not advocating one do this immediately upon purchasing his reenacting rifle, but it seems to me if one has been reenacting more than 5 or so years it should be definately something to consider. Over time reenactors, in my opinion, should be looking to hone and perfect their impressions to create, again over time, the most authentic kit they can. Tapping a barrel seems one of those little things one can do in that direction.

 

Its interesting that you comment about getting rid of propane weapons, which I agree are goofy at reenactments. However, stop to consider, what is easier and cheaper to accomplish in the name of authenticity tapping a barrel for a couple of hundred bucks or making any reenactor who wants to use an MG purchase a real .30 cal or MG-42?

 

My two cents,

Bill K.

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All the point expressed so far are very good ones. I'd like to add my own.

 

The thing that erks me, is from my experience is different people reenact for different reasons, and these personalities sometimes do not help to be authentic.

 

The last event I went to had about 100 soldiers. There were Airborne reenactors that didn't even get dirty. I mean they just drove their jeeps around. Like a jeep in an Infantry unit was anywhere near the front line. Hello bullet (or worse) magnet. These primadonna types get on my nerves.

 

Then there was the Hero types. They are the ones that arrive at an event wearing Sgt, Sgt or higher stripes and then end up being Squad leaders.

We came under fire in the re-enactment and they didn't know what to do. Idiots. I asked one of them if he knew what he was doing. He said "I'm a (real) Army Sergent". I asked him what corps. He said "Ordnance". One of the others was a US Navy Commander of all things. Bottom line, those two didn't know a thing about the WW2 GI.

 

So to cut my rant short - know what you are doing. Buy the field manuals, and Infantry Drill regulations and learn what WW2 GIs did when they came under fire, how they closed with the enemy and how they killed him. As a soldier, I can tell you that the tactics are very simple.

Find, Fix and FinishLearn how it was done. BTW the WW2 Infantry never sat around and did nothing. As soon as he stopped anywhere longer then 15 min he dug a shell scrap and got in it. An infantryman's nightmare is to be caught in artillery or mortar fire with out even the smallest hole for protection. The longer he stayed in that hole the deeper and better it got.

 

Oh and learn the effects of weapons. Buy a crappy post war helmet, set it up and fire at it at 100m with an M-1.

 

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Maybe it has been said before but ......... use re-enactment gear and don't mess up original items!

There are plenty of companies making nice stuff for re-enactment around.

It gives me the shivers seeing some of them around wearing original uniforms.

 

And then they wonder why prices go up ..... :rolleyes:disgust.gif

 

Btw, not every GI was built like a stormtrooper or Joe Louis ..... try and look at some original WWII photos, there were indeed "heavier built" GIs around.

Not every GI was Airborne ..... anyone ever heard of truck drivers, FA personnel, MPs (yes, there were "bulky" MPs in WWII !), Ordnance personnel, etc ???

 

Erwin

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Not a whole lot of guys use predominantly original uniforms and gear in the field, but sometimes it can't be helped. I would cringe if someone was rolling around in the dirt wearing an original M41 jacket, M42 jumpsuit, roughouts, etc. but whats the problem with using original leggings and wools. As accurate as reproductions can be they will never be originals, and using original items can add something to your impression. Especially because the first question out of any inquistive party is, "Is that real?" Not to mention that there are no reproduction M1 helmets, suitable 1928 packs, or in my case reproduction Marine service uniforms. Also sometimes reproductions can cost twice or three times the cost of originals. I use 20-90% reproduction gear depending on my impression, I don't see a problem with using original gear but their is a line between using and destroying.

 

I belong to a group which does 4th infantry division M.P. platoon and there are other units that have M.P.s , but non-infantry units are much less common.

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Bellumbill you said FIRST:

 

My vote, only referring to US reenactors, is to nix all external blank adapting devices - tap your barrels!!

 

Then, not a page later:

 

With all due respect, please point out to me where exactly in my statement I mentioned tapping an original WWII barrel?

 

Is that not what you said? Your posts are pretty clear to me.

 

To even mention that putting a 'rat barrel' on an otherwise serviceable action is LUNACY. I don't know what passes for blank adapters in your neck of the woods, but as I said, here is a pic of a blank adapter:

 

http://www.guiettemfg.com/images/SmallM1BFA.jpg

 

If you can see it from safe firing distance then you are looking way, way to hard.

 

That adapter is $100.

 

If you buy a 'rat barrel', have the old one removed (for whatever reason makes sense to you you) install the rat, headspace it, set the sights, the gas block etc you are WELL OVER $100. Then you have to UNDO it when you want to shoot. I am at a complete loss as to why you would do that. And even at a completer (if thats even a word) loss as to why you think its more authentic.

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Folks,

 

I bought a Plainfield carbine. Removed the bayonet lug. tapped the barrel and installed a flip site. This all cost under 100.00. I paid a little over $200 for the carbine itself. It does the trick and Im not embaressed to take it to events!

 

Mike

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My suggestion-most of those who were in WWII and VN were 18-22, unless they were higher ranking NCO's or Officers. When you are a 40 or 50 something PVT or PFC, it is either time to advance your rank or quit. It just doesn't look right, and ,people DO notice that.

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And leave your cell phones at home!

Patton didn't grab his gsm or cell phone to send forward his 2nd Armored Division.

 

When you want to drink a Coke, use a glass bottle and not a can!

 

Remove the bayonet lug from your carbine.

 

Cover your Frosties or whatever you eat with a ration box or something.

 

And if you have a jeep, make it look like a jeep and not like a Christmas tree.

 

Erwin.

 

 

You mean you shouldn't paint "Rat Patrol" on the Jeep???

also, LOSE WEIGHT!

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And I also must say another important think: Reenactors have to take care of their language.

 

In 2004 I had the opportunity to visit the "dead man's corner" near Carentan. There was a group of 101st AB reenactors. I guess they were from UK. The less I can say is that I was impressed at their combat worn uniforms and durty gear as if they had lived in the field and fight for days. They really looked great. They had dug their foxhole the 1944 way etc. My first impression was "this is great!". But when I went next to them I had some great deception: There was no talking without "F..ck" F...ing" "moth...cker" every two words! I lived the same experience in Sainte Mère l'Eglise...

 

My impression was that they must have read Mauldin to learn "how they spoke" before wearing their uniform... Or watch at some old 1940's movies as it has been written here.

 

 

 

And also I don't like very much seing reenactors in public wearing medal ribbons and CIB on dressed uniforms... They are just battlefield awards.

 

Yannick

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And I also must say another important think: Reenactors have to take care of their language.

 

In 2004 I had the opportunity to visit the "dead man's corner" near Carentan. There was a group of 101st AB reenactors. I guess they were from UK. The less I can say is that I was impressed at their combat worn uniforms and durty gear as if they had lived in the field and fight for days. They really looked great. They had dug their foxhole the 1944 way etc. My first impression was "this is great!". But when I went next to them I had some great deception: There was no talking without "F..ck" F...ing" "moth...cker" every two words! I lived the same experience in Sainte Mère l'Eglise...

 

My impression was that they must have read Mauldin to learn "how they spoke" before wearing their uniform... Or watch at some old 1940's movies as it has been written here.

And also I don't like very much seing reenactors in public wearing medal ribbons and CIB on dressed uniforms... They are just battlefield awards.

 

Yannick

 

Yannick---I agree with you---I don't have a problem with guys dressing up and running around playing soldier in field gear but I really think it's wrong to wear dress uniforms with actual CIBs, wings, ribbons etc that were earned by someone else...it just looks and smells bad---if they have to dress up in class "A"s, why not just wear the ribbons and badges they have actually earned through their own service. It may not look as "authentic" but certainly not any worse than wearing someone else's accomplishments.

AFB

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Not every GI was Airborne ..... anyone ever heard of truck drivers, FA personnel, MPs (yes, there were "bulky" MPs in WWII !), Ordnance personnel, etc ???
Good point. When I got into this almost 20 years ago, I was in my late teens, and damn sure looked the part of a GI then. (I was 6 foot and 150 soaking wet). Those days are long gone for me now, and although I still have all that stuff including a complete 8th AF bomber pilot impression, I just won't wear them anymore. I do War Correspondent stuff now because: A). I'm sick of running around having done it for real for uncle sam, and B). I just don't look the part like I used to.

I'm still not a "blimp" or anything, but getting older has made me look into all the other aspects of the hobby nobody else looks at. I'd love to eventually get a PACK howitzer and take into the field and just sit around, saying the we'd run out of ammo and drive everyone else nuts because it's not firing. In fact, I'm looking at one just like that right now to see if I can swing the deal. Being an ordnance guy would be great, break out a shop van, kick back and just chill out at an event.

It's really funny when I wear my War Correspondent stuff and some knucklehead comes up to the one of the other guys (or gals) in the group and accuses me of being a pacifist or something or someone who didn't feel worthy to dress like "a real soldier." They're always reminded I was an active duty Army Captain in real life, unlike most of the other people in the group dressed like the 'killers'! That always shuts 'em up!

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:lol:

Thanks for your reaction, it reminded me of Pvt. Oddball in "Kelly's Heroes" when he said his unit "acted" like they were always in maintenance (to avoid combat).

But you state it perfectly. thumbsup.gif

 

I've been told I'd make a good MP.

Dunno why tough .... :dry:think.gif

(Would be cool to run into a dance and beat the cr.p out of them Airborne re-enactors ... devil.gif )

 

Erwin

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Not every GI was Airborne...

I would add: Not every GI was E Co., 506th PIR. The number of 506th reenactors and their groups is hard to accept. Whenever and wherever I turn my head the spades everywhere are in my eyes. Mercy!! The US Army history is not one company history.

 

:)

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True ..... the other half of the American Army was 82nd Airborne. devil.gif

 

We all know that the war was won by the glorious 4th Armored Division with a little help from other - obscure - units. ;)

 

It would be great if some re-enactors would portray other units than 2AD, 29ID, 101AB, etc.

Where are re-enactors of let's say 5ID or 26ID or 6AD?

 

Erwin

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It's really funny when I wear my War Correspondent stuff and some knucklehead comes up to the one of the other guys (or gals) in the group and accuses me of being a pacifist or something or someone who didn't feel worthy to dress like "a real soldier."

 

Ever heard of Beaver Thompson ?

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You're talking about John Thompson of the Chicago Tribune, right? He's listed by many books to the be the first airborne war correspondent (with the 509th, if my memory is correct), but there is evidence that least one other was jumping from planes around the same time, maybe two by then. I think I have one of his original typewritten dispatches lying around here somewhere…
Thanks for your reaction, it reminded me of Pvt. Oddball in "Kelly's Heroes" when he said his unit "acted" like they were always in maintenance (to avoid combat).
Seriously, I am currently negotiating on a pack howitzer right now and that's exactly what I'll do with it if I can get my hands on it! Yeah, I too was thinking of that movie as well. Seriously, my idea is at the very first event I go to with the crew, we'll fire maybe two or three rounds then complain that the ammo hasn't caught up to us. We'd just hunker down by the gun and joke the rest of the time!
I've been told I'd make a good MP. (Would be cool to run into a dance and beat the cr.p out of them Airborne re-enactors ... devil.gif )
There are a few really good MP units out there. But to be authentic, you must be prepared for folks to avoid you and talk smack about you all the time. Along those lines, I was at a small tactical event many years ago, and there was one "LT" ordering everyone around. I kept giving him grief every time I saw him, yelling, "Hey, Loot, where's the best chow?" or, "Hey, Loot, the front is this way!" This went on most of the day. By the afternoon, he came up and started yelling at me, demanding to know what he'd done to me to warrant me acting like this as we'd never met before then. I pulled out my active duty card (Army, O-1) and said, "If you're going to wear those bars, you need to be ready to be treated like real Lieutenants get treated by the line soldiers." To his credit, he didn't say another word.
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Ah well, no problem avoiding people .... don't like crowds anyway.

Would be great being an MP Sergeant with my dog as "guard dog".

If I get "flak" from other re-enactors ...... "Brandie, go fetch!". devil.gifnaughty.gif

 

Erwin

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You're talking about John Thompson of the Chicago Tribune, right? He's listed by many books to the be the first airborne war correspondent (with the 509th, if my memory is correct), but there is evidence that least one other was jumping from planes around the same time, maybe two by then. I think I have one of his original typewritten dispatches lying around here somewhere…

 

Yes, thats right. Hey id be interested to have a look at that typewritten dispatch if you locate it someday... Thompson jumped with the 509th in N africa and with the 82nd in Sicily. If my memory is good i think he also jumped in Normandy no ? The funny thing is that during his first jump with the 509th he had never jumped before! So whenever these idiots tell you bad things about war correpondants tell them about Beaver!

There is a photo of him and much info in Dropzone Sicily by Breuer.

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YankeeDiv26

Wow what a great thread!

 

@Jeeper, The Yankee Division (26ID) is still alive and kicking in reenacting my friend! If I had to guess, we're one of the biggest US Infantry units in New England and usually have about 4-5 events a month for most of the year (even more in the summer). Check us out at www.26yd.com if you'd like (shameless ad)

 

@p51, I'd be down for that any day! A few big fun booms and then get to hang out in the hole (on gaurd depending on how big/hot the tactical is) and brew a few good cups of canteen cup joe.

 

One of the things I don't think has been addressed is going thorugh drilling/marching/manual of arms and doing it right. The reenacting unit I belong to always fall in/out formation and do so properly when we are breifed/debreifed, even if it's in the parking lot before a tactical. Learning the basics and doing so properly makes you look far more like a professional soldier (even if you aren't) than a lot of other things and you can do it with just a some good instruction and practice. I bet if you ask a lot of WWII veterans, they spent more time and work on the parade ground in basic than they did on the artificial battlefield.

 

General Military eticique should be followed as well. There are one thousand and one little things that people should do. When you put on a uniform you should put on the attitude that goes with it. A simple (and appropiate) correction here and there from someone who knows the rules makes a new guy learn a lot and fast. Respect the uniform and what it stands for (well...mabye not if you're axis :lol: )

 

Another thing is I think if you're at an event where being the "battle weary line doggie" look isn't appropiate, then dont. I think it's GREAT if a guy is at a LH display and looks like he REALLY was in combat the past few weeks, but if he's half-a$$ing it (aka being clean hygenically and having clean gear but doing things only acceptable when on the line) then it's just not right. You should either go through the effort of looking really good (ie pressed uniforms, clean grooming, good haircut, tie) or really bad (dirty/soiled/stained, tired, hungry, and in need of a 3 day pass), doing something in the middle doesn't do your impression any good. It's a little aggravating to see a guy who's too lazy to make his gig line right, take his jeep cap off, get his uniform nicely pressed, shave, and wear a tie at a display because he says its "what a combat GI what have looked like" but is there in a squeaky clean, all golden khaki, repro uniform with boots that have never walked a mile on a dirt road.

 

Some of the things I'd like to agree with are things like DIGGING HOLES! My great uncle (a 26ID combat vet during WWII) said he dug god knows how many half-done foxholes before moving out. There are god knows how many E-tools in reenacting that have never seen the light outside of their carriers.

 

I think that if someone can't move around the battlefield like they need to, then they should either get in shape enough so that they can or take a back seat at tacticals. Front line GI's were the definite minority, it's fine if you just cant be at the front of the front. It won't kill a guy if he's too old or unhealthy to sit back at HQ, but it may if he's pushing his body too far. I think a few years ago someone actually had a heart attack at FIG and passed away, I'm not sure if it was directly from over-working (I wasn't there) but something as unfortunate as that should never happen again.

 

I'm a young guy (16) and a good size (about 6'3 and 200lb) so I probably won't be sitting one out anytime soon but when that day comes I most definitely will. Should there be an elimination of everyone who can't do 50 pushups or run/jump/dive around the battlefield at full speed? No thats absurd, but if its unsafe for someone to do it, then they shouldn't.

 

reenacting will never be perfect because WW2 will not re-play itself, everyone should just make sure every step they take is in the right direction.

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Very well said!

I know I will not be the ideal soldier, but hope to drive along in an M-18 one day.

 

Btw, your familymember was in 26th Division?

What Regiment?

I have known a few Veterans from the 26th in all those years I did research.

Thanks.

 

Erwin

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Hi,

You're lucky to have such a great unit as the Yankees to fall in with. Brian Dugrenier and all the boys were a squad in my Platoon at the Gap (company K first Platoon) for a bunch of years and they always stood out for their excellent skills and deportment.

Just to set the record straight about Dennis the troop who passed from a heart attack at the Gap in 1999, It was a truly unfortunate thing, but aside from having a few extra pounds he was actually in decent shape (a high school wrestling coach I think) but never got the warning heart attack and instead got the "big one" first. I always remember that someone who I respect told me that he could have gone shoveling snow but instead it happened there.

Just thinking what we can do to be more authentic? Join the YD and follow the lead! Say Hi to all the guys for me,

Tom Bowers

in Sunny South Carolina.

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Tom, I can't rightfully speak on behalf of the YD (I'm only a pvt :lol:) but thanks very much for the kind words! I know LT. (Brian) Dugrenier does more than enough to keep the YD well oiled and always moving forward, as does everyone else within the unit. I'd be more than happy to pass your kind words on to them and I'm sure they would be more than happy to recieve it.

 

I won't be able to attend the GAP until 2010 (I have finals the same week every year thumbdown.gif ) but I've heard some very positive reviews of the K. Co. guys as well, I'll be looking forward to meeting all you gentlemen.

 

Thank you for clarifying the story over the man who had a heart attack, I was only going on speculation.

 

I think that just some of the biggest issues this hobby has are the simplest. I mean just plain old honesty is a simple one, I'd much rather say "yes, I am wearing double buckle boots for a Normandy event, but they're the only thing I got and I put some leggings over them, I'm sorry" than "well...they were designed in 1943 and through my "GI ingenuity" (aka a reproduction manufacturer) I obtained them in time for overlord, besides I saw a picture (out of thousands) that shows a guy with them". It's only criminal if someone decides against better judgement and justifies something that isn't there. Are the boots authentic? No probably not, but there are far greater sins in this world. You can fix a pair of boots a lot easier than you can fix an attitude, but the attitude applies to everything and the boots only to your feet. So if the boots fits, wear it!

 

(and yes this bizarre example is based on no actual event :lol: )

 

Another thing, people should take things far less personally then they sometimes do. I've seen on (other) forums where people post pictures of their impression asking for comments/criticisims and then act like you just slapped their mother when you actually give them. They're commenting on your uniform, your helmet, your webgear, hardly ever you (asides from occasionally a physical comment). There is a certain amount of pride one puts in their impression, but if they're mature enough to be involved in a hobby such as this one they should be mature enough to take legitimate criticism if they subject themself to it. Again, this type of attitude only applies to certain people, and not very many at that.

 

Another thing I tend not to love is the "elitism" that sometimes pops up, there are occasionally these "Super-Reenactors" that seem to think that if someone else's kit isn't as good as theirs, they should not be allowed to get on the field with them. Yes certain standards must be followed (and have been dramatically improving since the hobby's beginnings) but not everyone can come out every weekend, be as "hardcore" as someone, or put as much money into the hobby. Although I've never witnessed it happen in person, you can see it through "forum bullying" in different amounts depending on which forum you frequently visit. Being a 16 year old kid with a 40hour job during the first and last 2 months of the school year and a life outside of reenacting (although I'm slowly losing that too :rolleyes: ) I've come to realize that there are certain times I cant dedicate myself as much as I'd like too, and I cant blame anyone else for their level of commitment, nomatter what it is. I garuntee you most reenactors would rather go spend a weekend with the guys than go to work or stay at home because of the gas money (dont get me started there!). We all aren't in this hobby or be committed to it for the same reasons, and we shouldn't shun each other for it.

 

RANK! Who needs it?! If you didn't earn it, dont wear it. The only two exceptions I can think of for a guy needing those 2nd LT bars or all them Master Sergeant Stripes is that they either A) NEED someone to fill that position or B) It's more accurate for them to have rank than not. There weren't many 50 year old privates in the infantry, do yourself a favor and sew on a few stripes for still getting out there with us young guys and typically being our mentors thumbsup.gif You really dont NEED many guys with moderatly high ranks to fill in a reenacting unit anyways, just say the Company Commander/Platoon Sgt/squad leader was hit and you haven't gotten a replacement if you dont have anyone qualified enough for the position. It seems like the most hated guy at a reenactment is the one who's General so-and-so storming around bossing the enlisted men and ends up having NO credentials for the position whatsoever. I personally have no problems giving said jerks a smothering of "yes SIR" until it breaks through their thick ego's. If they're just as civilian as me and always have been, then their mommy must have told them they were special a few too many times for them to put on that rank.

 

Are there more things we can do to be authentic? Yes, and that's one out of the many reasons why I love this hobby, there is always possibility for the next event to be better than the last. I can think of a thousand and one things we can do to make this hobby better, and you'll probably hear more from me soon :rolleyes:

 

What always makes me feel better though is that the most bickering, flare ups, and issues I've seen over this hobby have taken place online (not on this forum though) instead of in person. I think people are far less likely to be an a$$ if they're looking in your eyes and not at their computer screen. At the times when it really counts (an event) people seem to generally get along REALLY well thumbsup.gif To me, thats what actually matters.

 

-Tim

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hbtcoveralls

Hi Again Tim,

I attended my first WWII event in 1991 (17 years ago) so that makes me an old-timer now, although I was young then and still haven't been fitted for any gray hairs. I have to say that it makes me happy to see young men still joining and participating with a great attitude and energy all these years later.

Your comments, espcially about rank, are also right on point. I think numbers are the key when it comes to rank. If you have 5 guys at an event, then you don't need a bird Colonel!, but if you have 150men, then for goodness sakes you better have a Captain.

I also see your points concerning authenticity when it comes to uniform. Here again attitude is everything, if a group or an individual is giving it their best shot and falling a little short, I have to respect their attempt. But when I see groups of "loose cannons" and people who just don't care about doing a credible impression I feel disappointed by their effort.

Tom Bowers

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