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I remember this helmet, and it has always been at the top of my list!! Now it has a complete detailed history behind the helmet. Just a great helmet and a great story.

 

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Ron, Great helmet, a very historic piece. Some items you just get a "feeling" from them when you pick them up. It is amazing when some of these items turn up at of the woodwork and thankfully it ended up in the right hands, as always, another great piece from a time period long ago!

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Not sure how I missed this thread. Aside from Theorywolf's D-Day worn 29th ID lid, this is absolutely the most incredible helmet I've ever had the honor of seeing posted. I mean, what more can you ask for? The documentation, everything is flawless. A 110% combat-worn used and abused lid that survived all these years and an almost death sentence while on its owners head. Absolutely the item I could safely say that most of us here would go nuts over. Congratulations man, well done.

Thankyou sir

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Ron, Great helmet, a very historic piece. Some items you just get a "feeling" from them when you pick them up. It is amazing when some of these items turn up at of the woodwork and thankfully it ended up in the right hands, as always, another great piece from a time period long ago!

 

Thanks D.

 

Appreciate the comments

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Incredible...and to answer the question of your original title of the thread "If only it could speak"...i believe it has spoken!....mike

 

Thanks Mike...it really was one of those light bulb moments when I first saw it.Something made me keep looking at it.You could say it had a secret to be revealed.

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I remember this helmet, and it has always been at the top of my list!! Now it has a complete detailed history behind the helmet. Just a great helmet and a great story.

 

Chris

 

Thanks Chris for the kind compliments.

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very cool story and documented...when I first started reading the thread...and looking at the pics...I was thinking this guy could have survived...the way the bullet or fragment went across the top of helmet hugging the top and creasing the liner...Ernie Pyle wrote of such a story I think, and several other documented cases of bullets entering and exiting without a kill wound...

 

anyway rambling...great helmet...very much a center piece with an awesome story

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Amazing helmet! These pieces of history are always exciting to hold and study. But, when you can be fortunate enough to ID something, it will forever take on a special glow when you look at it. Thanks for sharing this!

 

 

 

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Truly remarkable piece of history! Congratulations on the discovery and preserving the memory of this Marine for us all to witness.

Cheers, Graham

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WOW, What an amazing, singular thing you have there. Truly a museum piece. With all the provenance that has come together it reminded me of the Walter Stauffer McIlhenny helmet in the D-Day Museum in New Orleans. As I recall, I believe somebody placed the helmet together with the sword with which it was struck on his stretcher when he was taken away unconscious. I mention this because I would like to think that Wren himself got the helmet home. Some of the damage to the liner could be the result of a thorough cleaning beforehand that got worse over the years. Just speculation, but I struggle a little with the idea that another Marine would pick up a fellow Marines through-shot helmet that anyone who didn't know would assume resulted in the wearer's death, and send or give to his sister. Anything Japanese would be fair game, but I would have thought that it would be frowned on as ghoulish if not his helmet and sister. Just a thought, and perhaps a naïve one.

 

In any event, WOW. Congratulations on the rescue of a truly REMARKABLE object. Thanks for posting. Unforgettable.

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WOW, What an amazing, singular thing you have there. Truly a museum piece. With all the provenance that has come together it reminded me of the Walter Stauffer McIlhenny helmet in the D-Day Museum in New Orleans. As I recall, I believe somebody placed the helmet together with the sword with which it was struck on his stretcher when he was taken away unconscious. I mention this because I would like to think that Wren himself got the helmet home. Some of the damage to the liner could be the result of a thorough cleaning beforehand that got worse over the years. Just speculation, but I struggle a little with the idea that another Marine would pick up a fellow Marines through-shot helmet that anyone who didn't know would assume resulted in the wearer's death, and send or give to his sister. Anything Japanese would be fair game, but I would have thought that it would be frowned on as ghoulish if not his helmet and sister. Just a thought, and perhaps a naïve one.

 

In any event, WOW. Congratulations on the rescue of a truly REMARKABLE object. Thanks for posting. Unforgettable.

 

 

Thanks Pete

 

We will really never know the full story and lots of questions still to be answered.

 

 

I only know it was found in Florida and the veteran passed away several years prior in Michighan.Will never know if he or his widow ever lived in Florida or how it ended up there.Just a fague story from the shop it came from.

 

I often think of a knife we have here in a local museum.Its card states it was found on Tarawa.There was no scabbard with the knife.It was an early red spacer Kabar

 

One day I was speaking to a volunteer there and found out he had been a WW2 Navy vet.During the conversation the topic of the display came up and he was actually the man who donated the knife.He went on to say he found the knife stuck in the sand.He said beside the knife lay a dead Marine.He went on to explain he reached down and picked the knife up.He didnt even know why he did so.Just said it was an automatic response.He said I still dont know why I did so.He seemed a bit embarrassed to even admit or tell the story.He went on to say everytime he looked at the knife over the years he saw that marine in his memory and the smell of the island.He decided to donate it one day to the museum.We may never know what compells people to do things as with this veteran he had no explanation to why he picked up a knife on a day like any other day on a small island in the pacific.Makes you wonder how many items could have a similiar story but never will be known.

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SEABEE SON

What an amazing helmet and story! The helmet spoke volumes in the end. Well done!

 

 

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ParanormalTrooper

Awesome helmet, it was great to read all five pages and see the progression on IDing the guy!

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Here is some radio chatter between Marine units on Saipan that might be of interest. I see he was in an antitank unit. Maybe his?

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByvMmQyvgnKENGU2YjE3YWYtNzljNi00NmJjLTk0YzEtZTE2YjM3ODMwMGI3/view?ddrp=1&hl=en#

 

 

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Thanks for the comment and the link

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Awesome helmet, it was great to read all five pages and see the progression on IDing the guy!

 

 

Thanks

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TheMinistryOfAviation

So glad this thread found its way back to the top!

What an incredible tale of research for this incredible lid!

 

Got goosbumps when I read the line "gunshot would of the scalp"!!

 

-Jeremy

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So glad this thread found its way back to the top!

What an incredible tale of research for this incredible lid!

 

Got goosbumps when I read the line "gunshot would of the scalp"!!

 

-Jeremy

 

 

Thanks Jeremy for taking the time to read and comment.

 

I really have to give a lot of credit to member Kanemono (Dick).I reached out to him for help in researching the rolls and if not for him this would not have eveolved as quickly as it did and I cant say enough thanks to memeber Kanemono and others who give freely of there time and research abilities on the forum.

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