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Nice photo Patches,

 

Not long after this photo was taken at Camp Meade, the 11th Infantry Division was disbanded and many of the assets were assigned to the Hawaiian Department, becoming the cadre of the square Hawaiian Division at Schofield Barracks, T.H. in 1921.  The 11th ID replaced the regulars from the 1st & 2nd IR, 4th & 5th Cav,, and other regular units which had garrisoned Hawaii during the Great War.

 

The primary assets used to form the Hawaiian Division, the 21st & 22nd Infantry Brigades and the 11th Artillery Brigade, came from the WWI era 11th "Liberty" Infantry Division, thus the many '11th' numbered units on their Order of Battle. The Hawaiian Division was the only 'Full' division in the US Army during the interwar years. It was organized as a square division with two infantry brigades each having two infantry regiments and supporting engineer, artillery, armor, aviation, chemical, medical, quartermaster & ordnance units. There was also a large coast artillery harbor defense and AA presence on the islands organized under the Hawaiian (Separate) Coast Artillery Brigade.

 

Other assets reassigned from the 11th Infantry Division to the Hawaiian Division included:

 

11th Ordnance Company HD

11th Motorcycle Company HD

11th Signal Company HD

11th Tank Company HD

11th Field Artillery Brigade

11th Field Artillery Regiment

11th Ammunition Train HD

11th Medical Regiment HD

11th Photographic Section HD

Branch Intelligence Section No. 11 - redesignated Air Intelligence Office No. 11 (1922)

 

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10 hours ago, Salvage Sailor said:

Nice photo Patches,

 

Not long after this photo was taken at Camp Meade, the 11th Infantry Division was disbanded and many of the assets were assigned to the Hawaiian Department, becoming the cadre of the square Hawaiian Division at Schofield Barracks, T.H. in 1921.  The 11th ID replaced the regulars from the 1st & 2nd IR, 4th & 5th Cav,, and other regular units which had garrisoned Hawaii during the Great War.

 

The primary assets used to form the Hawaiian Division, the 21st & 22nd Infantry Brigades and the 11th Artillery Brigade, came from the WWI era 11th "Liberty" Infantry Division, thus the many '11th' numbered units on their Order of Battle. The Hawaiian Division was the only 'Full' division in the US Army during the interwar years. It was organized as a square division with two infantry brigades each having two infantry regiments and supporting engineer, artillery, armor, aviation, chemical, medical, quartermaster & ordnance units. There was also a large coast artillery harbor defense and AA presence on the islands organized under the Hawaiian (Separate) Coast Artillery Brigade.

 

Other assets reassigned from the 11th Infantry Division to the Hawaiian Division included:

 

11th Ordnance Company HD

11th Motorcycle Company HD

11th Signal Company HD

11th Tank Company HD

11th Field Artillery Brigade

11th Field Artillery Regiment

11th Ammunition Train HD

11th Medical Regiment HD

11th Photographic Section HD

Branch Intelligence Section No. 11 - redesignated Air Intelligence Office No. 11 (1922)

 

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Keeping Ian's Topic LIVING, lets post this find.

 

A sort of patch as it were, in the late 40s early 50s members of the 1st Army HQ on Governors Island in New York City form the A of the 1st Army patch, note the WACS of the unit are placed making up the center bar of the A.

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Perhaps just a portion of the HQ and Regiments and their pieces that made up the Great War 1st Field Artillery Brigade 1st Division is used in forming the division's Big Red One patch. Germany sometime in 1919.

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On 8/4/2022 at 12:35 AM, patches said:

Perhaps just a portion of the HQ and Regiments and their pieces that made up the Great War 1st Field Artillery Brigade 1st Division is used in forming the division's Big Red One patch. Germany sometime in 1919.

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This photo was taken at Grenzhausen, Germany, in August 1919 when the 1st Artillery Brigade, 1st Infantry Division was part of the Third Army (Army of Occupation). Seems to be all the 155mm howitzers of the brigade's 5th FA Regiment and all the 75mm field guns of the brigade's 6th and 7th FA Regiments.  The trench mortars may be at the far end of each wing, but the resolution of the photo is not clear enough for me to make them out.  There seem to be between 1,000 and 1,500 folks in the picture, which is not nearly enough for an entire Field Artillery brigade (which was authorized 5,055 officers & men by the end of the war).  May just be the combat vets from 1917-1918 who have not yet rotated home.

 

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Here is a photo of the 3rd Artillery Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division (another unit in the Army of Occupation), taken in Nieder Endig, Germany on 14 July 1919. It shows the 10th Field Artillery Regiment, 18th Field Artillery Regiment, and 76th Field Artillery Regiment, 3rd Trench Mortar Battery, and 3rd Artillery Train forming the 3rd Division "Rock of the Marne" patch.  Like the photo of the 1st Artillery Brigade, there are nowhere near 5,000 offices, NCOs, and soldiers in the group.

 


 

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This is a photo of the officers of the Ammunition Trains of the 2nd Division, taken 14 Dec 1918 in Germany. It appears that none of the officers are wearing the shoulder insignia of the 2nd Ammunition Train (an Indian head on a green, upright projectile).  The Ammunition Train was quite large, so there were a good number of officers:

  Headquarters
  HQ Detachment, Motor Battalion
  HQ Detachment, Horsed Battalion
  Wagon Company
  Ordnance Detachment, Motor Battalion
  MORS—Mobil Ordnance Repair Shop
  1st Caisson Company
  2nd Caisson Company
  1st Motor Truck Company
  2nd Motor Truck Company
  3rd Motor Truck Company
  4th Motor Truck Company

 

 

2nd Ammunition Train officers - Germany - Dec 1918.jpg

2nd Ammunition Train shoulder patch - WWI.jpg

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Another photo by Arthur Mole and John Thomas.  The 18th (Cactus) Division was formed at Camp Travis, adjacent to Ft Sam Houston in San Antonio, from the troops remaining after the 90th (Tough Ombres or Texas/Oklahoma) Division shipped out.  The war ended before they could get to France.  Nevertheless, here is an 'aerial' photo of the troops of the 18th Division formed up to look like their shoulder insignia of a cactus.  The horse-drawn artillery batteries form the border.  The division was demobilized in February 1919.

 

Note that there are nurses in the front rows.  This photo is in the library at SMU.  It can also be found on p. 72 of the book Camp Travis and the World War, which is available online at Camp Travis and its part in the world war : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive.  The caption says there are 20,000 troops in the photo.

 

I've not seen a WWI shoulder insignia for the division, but have seen a white metal watch fob showing the insignia, which dates from 1918.

 

The 18th was one of the National Army divisions whose artillery regiments were formed from National Army cavalry regiments.  On 14 Aug 1918, the 303rd Cavalry Regiment (which had been called up in January 1918 when it was thought that the war of the trenches in Europe was soon to move to a war of maneuver) was dissolved and formed into the 52nd and 53rd Field Artillery Regiments, as well as the 18th Trench Mortar Battery.  The 304th Cavalry Regiment reformed into the 54th Field Artillery Regiment and the 18th Ammunition Train.  Brigadier General Raymond W. Briggs was the 18th Field Artillery Brigade commander.  He had been to the war in Europe three times before:  in 1914 he observed the German offensive against Belgium (he had been returning from a tour in the Far East, traveling across Russia, when the war began - and was the first U.S. Army officer to be able to report on the German artillery shelling of Antwerp); in 1917 he was part of Pershing's staff during the initial AEF deployment and became chief of the AEF's Remount Service, seeing action at Ypres, Verdun, and Cambrei; in early 1918, he was back in France as commander of the 304th F.A. Regiment of the 77th Division, fighting in the Alsace sector and at Chateau Thierry. When he was promoted to brigadier general, he was ordered back to the U.S. to take command of the 18th F.A. Brigade.

 

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Cactus Division watch fob -1918.jpg

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I sure enjoy looking at these and the great history they represent.  You will never see them done again as the regimental system is dead in the USArmy now and I really doubt they could muster enough pride or interest to attempt to pull one off. Sad but things change; not always for the better.

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1st Infantry Division South Vietnam

 

A Living Patch in a manner of speaking as it's Dug out of the Living Earth, in the Jungle at Lai Khê 1968, Lai Khê, the Base Camp of the Big Red One,  As we see the Jungle is already starting its inexorable regrowth of the carved out portions of the patch

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