Corporal rank chevrons on IKE jacket - WWII

[atcampos1]

Hi guys,

 

 

I have been asked from a friend of mine if the late pattern for the corporal and sergeant rank chevrons (the greener ones) usually sewn on the M43 jacket were also sewn on IKE jackets too.

 

I have never seen any picture with this combination. I am used to see the first pattern instead ("khaki" on blue).

 

Does anyone have this information?

 

Thanks and best regards,

 

 

 

Alex.

[patches]

In WWII all the various color and embroiderd types are and will seen worn on the Class A uniforms, the 4 pocket coats and the later IKE jackets. All these types can and will be seen being worn on all Field items, from OD Wool shirts to HBTs, from Paratrooper Jump Jackets to Mackinaws. The only uniform you will not see all the differant types sewn on to will be the Khaki shirt, the only types that were worn will be the White/Silver on Black woven/Black twill types, the wearing of embroidered on Wool types were not seen on the EM Khaki shirts.

[craig_pickrall]

Hi guys,

I have been asked from a friend of mine if the late pattern for the corporal and sergeant rank chevrons (the greener ones) usually sewn on the M43 jacket were also sewn on IKE jackets too.

 

I have never seen any picture with this combination. I am used to see the first pattern instead ("khaki" on blue).

 

Does anyone have this information?

 

Thanks and best regards,

Alex.

 

 

Are you asking about the shade 44 Army Green chevrons? They came out in 1958. There was a transition from the OD Ike jacket to the Army Green 4 pocket Jacket during this period. You will see the Army Green chevrons sewn on the OD Ike during thais period.

 

The Corporal chevron saw little use during this time but the other chevrons were common.

 

This is a 1st SGT chevron in AG44 Army Green.

 

[blkjack07]

From '48 to'58 there were only six enlisted grades, weren't there? Because the three-stripe "buck" sergeant chevron was not used?

[Justin B.]

From '48 to'58 there were only six enlisted grades, weren't there? Because the three-stripe "buck" sergeant chevron was not used?

 

There were still seven grades, but no rank insignia for E-1 and E-2. E-2 didn't get a stripe back till 1968 when the PFC with one rocker was introduced.

 

Justin B.

 

[atcampos1]

Hi guys,

 

 

Thanks for your comments.

 

Based on what I have read, the green chevrons were introduced just in February 1951! This is new to me but it confirms what I was thinking about, I mean, no WWII IKE Jacket had any "green on blue" sewn on during the war.

 

Best regards,

 

 

 

Alex.

[Justin B.]

Hi guys,

Thanks for your comments.

 

Based on what I have read, the green chevrons were introduced just in February 1951! This is new to me but it confirms what I was thinking about, I mean, no WWII IKE Jacket had any "green on blue" sewn on during the war.

 

For WW2 OD green stripes on blue are usually appliqué, that is cut from cloth and sewn to the blue background. Korea-era are more likely to be machine embroidered. BUT! There were OD machine embroidered chevrons in use during WW2, too. There was so much of that stuff made in those years it's pretty hard to be definitive about all the variations.

 

Justin B.

[patches]

Justin and the guys are right here, but maybe if this IKE would be 1950s dated or worn IKE, if so then it might have one of those Small Specialist ranks on it, or Gold on Army Green PFC on it , these two ranks started to be seen being worn on the OD IKEs in the Mid 50s for the Specialist ranks and starting around late 1957 for other Gold on Green ranks, though the only ranks I have seen thus far, apart from the small Specialts ranks for some reason are Gold on Army Green PFCs stripes.

[blkjack07]

There were still seven grades, but no rank insignia for E-1 and E-2. E-2 didn't get a stripe back till 1968 when the PFC with one rocker was introduced.

 

Justin B.

Thanks ... I was thinking "chevron" instead of "grade" ... also, thanks for that chart.

[atcampos1]

Hi guys,

 

 

Thanks again! I am learning a lot here!!!

 

My friend is a reenactor and he would like to wear a WWII IKE Jacket with those rank chevrons on it.

 

Best regards,

 

 

Alex.

[Dakota]

There were still seven grades, but no rank insignia for E-1 and E-2. E-2 didn't get a stripe back till 1968 when the PFC with one rocker was introduced.

 

Justin B.

 

 

 

E2/PFC always had a stripe

[Lee Ragan]

E2/PFC always had a stripe

 

Not according to the chart above.

[Justin B.]

E2/PFC always had a stripe

 

 

Sorry, that's not correct:

Another chevron revision planned for 1965 was the re-introduction of the title of lance corporal. Since 1948, the two lowest pay grades had no chevrons, with the third pay grade being distinguished by the single inverted V of a private first class. The concept was to give the next to lowest pay grade the title and insignia of private first class, with the third grade receiving a new chevron and the title of lance corporal. Though these chevrons were manufactured in the 1960s, just before the plan was to be implemented, the plan itself was canceled. In 1968 this chevron design, consisting of one arc and one inverted V, became authorized for issue to PFC E-3; the old PFC's insignia of one bar became the chevron for privates E-2.

 

--William K. Emerson,

Chevrons

, 1983

 

Justin B.

[claymore]

Just read this, so when do the WW2 kakhi backed stripes come in?