Murphy92 Posted May 4, 2012 Share #1 Posted May 4, 2012 Hi from France everybody Recently picked ud to a friend of mine who found it in the Vosges sector (France), this helmet certainly painted in white for 1944's winter campaign : Not exactly in my theme of collection (Normandy and Britain in 1944) but a rare historic relic, no ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted May 4, 2012 Share #2 Posted May 4, 2012 Apart from its colour it lacks some of the usual features found on WW2 tankers' helmets, most notably the springs which hold the receivers in place. Compare it with the picture below (which has some captioning errors) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy92 Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share #3 Posted May 4, 2012 Hi Sabre I know well the M-38 tanker helmet you show ... but my helmet reffers to this link : http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...=rawlings+clark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Devil Posted May 4, 2012 Share #4 Posted May 4, 2012 Excellent helmet!! :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted May 4, 2012 Share #5 Posted May 4, 2012 Riiiight....I wasn't aware of such a variant! :think: Very scarce...thanks for the explanation! :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeper704 Posted May 4, 2012 Share #6 Posted May 4, 2012 That's really a rare find. Been looking for one myself for a very long time. Erwin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy92 Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share #7 Posted May 4, 2012 Thanks for your replies More pictures and details ... Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baker Posted May 4, 2012 Share #8 Posted May 4, 2012 Very cool. I like it. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtdorango Posted May 4, 2012 Share #9 Posted May 4, 2012 Sweet helmet!!!.....i would also love to stumble upon one!.....mike :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baker Posted May 5, 2012 Share #10 Posted May 5, 2012 Out of curiousity, do any of you helmet guys out there have any idea of the value of one of these? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted May 5, 2012 Share #11 Posted May 5, 2012 The white finish, although obviously "weathered" with age, looks very uniform, almost like a factory finish as opposed to an ad hoc winter camo finish. But why would a helmet designed to be worn in the confines of an armoured vehicle need to be winter camo'd...assuming that's what it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baker Posted May 5, 2012 Share #12 Posted May 5, 2012 The white finish, although obviously "weathered" with age, looks very uniform, almost like a factory finish as opposed to an ad hoc winter camo finish. But why would a helmet designed to be worn in the confines of an armoured vehicle need to be winter camo'd...assuming that's what it is? Tank Destroyer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted May 5, 2012 Share #13 Posted May 5, 2012 Tank Destroyer? As in "head above the parapet", so to speak? Possibly. I don't think I've ever seen any pics of winter camo'd tanker helmets...but that's not to say they aren't out there somewhere. :think: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Baker Posted May 5, 2012 Share #14 Posted May 5, 2012 As in "head above the parapet", so to speak? Possibly. I don't think I've ever seen any pics of winter camo'd tanker helmets...but that's not to say they aren't out there somewhere. :think: I've got some. I'm off to work, but if I remember I'll post a few. Now, does anyone have an estimate of value? No tricks, but I think Gilles would also like to know if he got a good deal. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Herd Posted May 6, 2012 Share #15 Posted May 6, 2012 The Wilson History & Research Center shows a white version of the more common style and says it's snow camo. That Rawlings Clark version must be hard to find, my Dad saw one in a pile of 50 and dug through, it was the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy92 Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share #16 Posted May 6, 2012 Many thanks all ... Yes indeed, I would like toknow the exact valor of this helmet (I know the price I've bought it but it's certainly far the reality) For the white color, I've seen the M38 ont the Wilson History & Research Center... Mine is more a factory painted model than it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ken88 Posted May 8, 2012 Share #17 Posted May 8, 2012 That's a neat helmet..! One can however wonder if the white color is winter camouflage. Tanks aren't exactly the easiest thing to camouflage, they make a lot of noise as well, so why would the crew even bother camouflaging their helmets? Sure they didn't spend all day in the can, but still.. + I wouldn't expect such a precision job, the straps being green, the leather untouched... Could the white have had another purpose besides camouflage? It could be camouflage though, to draw away the attention if it were used by a gunner or navigator, or simply by someone who wanted to feel safe at all times. That doesn't take away the fact that this is a very nice helmet! Awesome find & congratulations :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy92 Posted May 14, 2012 Author Share #18 Posted May 14, 2012 hi !!! any idea about an approximativ value for this helmet ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETO Posted May 14, 2012 Share #19 Posted May 14, 2012 IMO ,the paint appears to be factory done. When you look at the air vent holes on top of the helmet the inside edges of the holes have all been neatly painted white....but when you look at the interior there is no signs of dripping or overpaint. I can't imagine that kind of detail being field applied. Also some of the strapping dose not show any signs of paint or having been painted around.These are only observations and why would factory paint be applied for a 6 week campaign :think: Food for thought. Best Regards Zeke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted May 14, 2012 Share #20 Posted May 14, 2012 Tank Destroyer? Or Armored Car Crewmen, vehicals such as the M8 Grayhound or it's brother the M20 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patches Posted May 14, 2012 Share #21 Posted May 14, 2012 What were the 4 male snaps on the front for ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Reijnders Posted May 17, 2012 Share #22 Posted May 17, 2012 ( "What were the 4 male snaps on the front for" ) Untill now no info found on this question. On the picture you can see another variant from the Rawlings Clark !! One with tension arms etc etc Regards , Paul Reijnders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Reijnders Posted May 17, 2012 Share #23 Posted May 17, 2012 see text in the picture Regards, Paul Reijnders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Reijnders Posted May 17, 2012 Share #24 Posted May 17, 2012 Far left : Rawlings Clark Mid : Rawlings Clark with 2 extra snaps for the strap + tension arms Far right : Standard M-1938 Tanker helmet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphy92 Posted May 17, 2012 Author Share #25 Posted May 17, 2012 Far left : Rawlings ClarkMid : Rawlings Clark with 2 extra snaps for the strap + tension arms Far right : Standard M-1938 Tanker helmet Thanks for all these infos and pictures ... Paul : there's one more green R/C ! You have to trade one with mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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