Sabrejet Posted August 15, 2012 Share #5251 Posted August 15, 2012 Ian, It should be remembered that the American Civil War (1861 to 1865) is considered by many to be the first truly modern war fought not only soldier to soldier but also by soldiers against the infrastructure and population as well. The contemporary images of burned and bombed cities all across the south especially, are very similar to the photos of devastation of WWI and WWII Europe. And when considered against the sparse population in north America in the 1860s it puts in perspective the degree of devastation. In many ways the areas destroyed are still recovering. 911 was indeed terrible but it is not the first time our nation has faced shot and shell and destruction, just the first time recently. Certainly we avoided being devastated due to the fortune of having great oceans and Hitler's timely demise, and for that we are glad.Tom Bowers Yes, of course. Thanks for that timely reminder Tom. I was thinking in terms of "modern" mass destruction. Ian :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted August 15, 2012 Share #5252 Posted August 15, 2012 Ian, I think these are the Japanese Fugo Bombing Balloons you're talking about, not in Washington State, but in Oregon, almost buddy, Washington State, along with Idaho used to be a part of Oregon Territory, but all good school teachers know that. The public announcement was finally made due to a tragic event that occurred on May 5, 1945. A woman and five children, on a church picnic, were killed in a remote area near Bly, Oregon, after they discovered a downed balloon with a bomb still attached, and one of them moved the bomb, causing it to explode. http://www.stelzriede.com/ms/html/mshwfugo.htm @ Hey Jack's Son, of course it's all in fun, that's what I like most about Ken's "Norman D. Landing", a good laugh now & then! :thumbsup: As a native Washingtonian you have an unfair advantage Pat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack's Son Posted August 15, 2012 Share #5253 Posted August 15, 2012 J.S.,Are you saying you only have eyes for Kat? :w00t: :laughing1: Am I so transparent?? :laughing1: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_pickrall Posted August 15, 2012 Share #5254 Posted August 15, 2012 Have you shared this with your wife yet? I know you keep so many things secret from her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack's Son Posted August 15, 2012 Share #5255 Posted August 15, 2012 Have you shared this with your wife yet? I know you keep so many things secret from her. She knows Kat well, they talk, share books and TV shows. What would you like me to do?? Tell me.....what do you know that she doesn't?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Andrews Posted August 16, 2012 Share #5256 Posted August 16, 2012 The Japanese "Fu-Go" fire balloons came to earth from Alaska to GUATEMALA and IIRC as far EAST as Nebraska. BTW an historian for the USAF, latterly specializing in SAC, the Cold War bomber/missile gaps and nukes, once told me that the 1945 "Fu-Go" effort was meant just a precursor/test of concept. Tokyo planned to load the 1946 bunch with BIOLOGICAL agents, as developed in their labs in Manchuria (Unit 721?). The balloons were no joke or cute quirk. American territory: Aleutians? Submarine deck guns shooting at California shore fuel farms? Not a high level of threat, but not quite ZERO. And then there were I-400-class super subs that were to attack the US.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutiger83 Posted August 16, 2012 Share #5257 Posted August 16, 2012 American territory: Aleutians? Submarine deck guns shooting at California shore fuel farms? Not a high level of threat, but not quite ZERO. You are correct but we had NOTHING near the devastation that was suffered in other countries during WWII. We are talking about sheer devastation and loss of civilian life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtRGFRANK Posted August 16, 2012 Share #5258 Posted August 16, 2012 See Ken isn't the only one that can work on buildings. Except I'm working on my house built in the 50s and he works on house's built in the 1600-1700s. Robert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack's Son Posted August 16, 2012 Share #5259 Posted August 16, 2012 See Ken isn't the only one that can work on buildings. Except I'm working on my house built in the 50s and he works on house's built in the 1600-1700s. Robert The only real difference is that Ken uses PERIOD TOOLS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutiger83 Posted August 16, 2012 Share #5260 Posted August 16, 2012 See Ken isn't the only one that can work on buildings. Except I'm working on my house built in the 50s and he works on house's built in the 1600-1700s. Robert I can tell you don't live in the South. This time of year, the roofers start before the sun comes up and stop before lunch. It is so hot with the shingles, that a heat stroke can happen VERY quickly. It is true that Ken works on only vintage items! :w00t: ....Kat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LtRGFRANK Posted August 16, 2012 Share #5261 Posted August 16, 2012 I can tell you don't live in the South. This time of year, the roofers start before the sun comes up and stop before lunch. It is so hot with the shingles, that a heat stroke can happen VERY quickly. It is true that Ken works on only vintage items! :w00t: ....Kat Same here Kat. Its been in the high 90s to low 100s for over a month. Then last night a front came through and it was 62 as I was shingling. Started at 0800 and was done by noon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted August 17, 2012 Share #5262 Posted August 17, 2012 See Ken isn't the only one that can work on buildings. Except I'm working on my house built in the 50s and he works on house's built in the 1600-1700s. Robert Hi robert, you are both a gentleman and an artisan :thumbsup: , I am pleased to see that you didn't send the wife on the roof to fix the shingles, you know what some guys are like. ken Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, 17 August 2012 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted August 17, 2012 Share #5263 Posted August 17, 2012 The only real difference is that Ken uses PERIOD TOOLS!! Hi JS, yep things are a little backwards here, in the next year or two we are hoping to get an indoor fosset and such, the damn stream is cold for bathing in during the winter. :crying: ken Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, 17 August 2012 spelling correction I wrote ' the dame in the stream is cold when bathing during the winter ' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted August 17, 2012 Share #5264 Posted August 17, 2012 Same here Kat. Its been in the high 90s to low 100s for over a month. Then last night a front came through and it was 62 as I was shingling. Started at 0800 and was done by noon. Hi Kat & Robert, it's been the warmest day of the year here today, sadly we are past the longest day and the days are hour and a half shorter now, summers going :crying: Pleased that I have been collecting rainwater off the roof or the garden would be dead now with what little rain we have had. ken Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, 17 August 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutiger83 Posted August 18, 2012 Share #5265 Posted August 18, 2012 spelling correction I wrote ' the dame in the stream is cold when bathing during the winter ' Well...I am sure the dame would be cold if she was standing in the stream! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack's Son Posted August 18, 2012 Share #5266 Posted August 18, 2012 Hi JS, yep things are a little backwards here, in the next year or two we are hoping to get an indoor fosset and such, the damn stream is cold for bathing in during the winter. :crying: ken spelling correction I wrote ' the dame in the stream is cold when bathing during the winter ' Ken I didn't say you are backwards, or that you don't have running water. I simply said that you are a craftsman who uses period tools :think:. (Hence you take longer to do a quality job.) (Now, if you leave a dame in a cold stream, you are doing something backwards!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack's Son Posted August 18, 2012 Share #5267 Posted August 18, 2012 Robert.....These pictures HAVE TO BE STAGED!! Where's the "Butt-Crack"?? :w00t: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutiger83 Posted August 18, 2012 Share #5268 Posted August 18, 2012 Robert.....These pictures HAVE TO BE STAGED!! Where's the "Butt-Crack"?? :w00t: He must have one of those Duluth shirts that comes in the Crack Spackle bucket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.T. Posted August 18, 2012 Share #5269 Posted August 18, 2012 Robert.....These pictures HAVE TO BE STAGED!! Where's the "Butt-Crack"?? :w00t: Somebody sent me this picture sometime back about German plumbers, can't remember who. That picture of working on the roof reminds me of my framing days, not picture frames, framing houses. When the boss ws gone, we'd shoot our nail gun at the other crews, and them at us, a miracle nobody ever got hurt, there is truth in "God helps fools and idiots". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack's Son Posted August 18, 2012 Share #5270 Posted August 18, 2012 NOW.......That's what I'm talk'n about!! :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted August 18, 2012 Share #5271 Posted August 18, 2012 Somebody sent me this picture sometime back about German plumbers, can't remember who. That picture of working on the roof reminds me of my framing days, not picture frames, framing houses. When the boss ws gone, we'd shoot our nail gun at the other crews, and them at us, a miracle nobody ever got hurt, there is truth in "God helps fools and idiots". Very few women of my acquaintance have a hairy chest! :yucky: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.T. Posted August 18, 2012 Share #5272 Posted August 18, 2012 Very few women of my acquaintance have a hairy chest! :yucky: Ian, you don't know what your missing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted August 18, 2012 Share #5273 Posted August 18, 2012 Ian, you don't know what your missing! So it's true what they say about German women? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted August 18, 2012 Share #5274 Posted August 18, 2012 Somebody sent me this picture sometime back about German plumbers, can't remember who. That picture of working on the roof reminds me of my framing days, not picture frames, framing houses. When the boss ws gone, we'd shoot our nail gun at the other crews, and them at us, a miracle nobody ever got hurt, there is truth in "God helps fools and idiots". Hi Pat, you should remember who sent you the photo, ' tWAs mE ' kenNorman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, 18 August 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack's Son Posted August 18, 2012 Share #5275 Posted August 18, 2012 So it's true what they say about German women? ....... :pinch: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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