General Apathy Posted January 17 #27426 Posted January 17 20 hours ago, mikie said: Interesting. I know that Navy M1 helmets left the factory painted green and ships painted them gray as they saw fit. Were Navy jeeps painted gray at the factory? . Hi mikie, Sorry to say that these particular parts are not Navy related. The reason I added the photos of the grey painted pieces are that it's a surprise that these parts WERE / ARE grey painted, Ford painted their engine blocks grey but not particularly any other parts, and I suppose I would like share or an answer as to why these non-engine parts ended up Ford grey. Willys painted their engine blocks green, Jeep enthusiasts like to research all the various parts, pieces and colours of Willys and Ford Jeeps. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, January 17 2025. ...
General Apathy Posted January 17 #27427 Posted January 17 1 hour ago, 12thengr said: . Hi 12th. Welcome and many thanks for showing an original carton, and the ' correct ' screws, really difficult to find that correct style head commercially over here, best I could do were slot heads rather than the regular cross heads. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, January 17 2025. ...
earlymb Posted January 17 #27428 Posted January 17 1 hour ago, General Apathy said: . Hi mikie, Sorry to say that these particular parts are not Navy related. The reason I added the photos of the grey painted pieces are that it's a surprise that these parts WERE / ARE grey painted, Ford painted their engine blocks grey but not particularly any other parts, and I suppose I would like share or an answer as to why these non-engine parts ended up Ford grey. Willys painted their engine blocks green, Jeep enthusiasts like to research all the various parts, pieces and colours of Willys and Ford Jeeps. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, January 17 2025. ... My guess would be these spare parts had to be coated with SOMETHING and they got whatever was closest to the paint storage's door, or maybe some left-over paint? Some parts were primed, black, some OD. I found my air cleaner brackets were primed black before being fit to the body, which was already OD then. Everything got a final coat of OD after that. There is even a website about colours of jeep parts, which is used a lot by jeep restorers including myself: http://jeepdraw.com/PART_COLOURS.htm
General Apathy Posted January 18 #27430 Posted January 18 7 hours ago, mikie said: As Mr Spock would say, fascinating. mikie . hi mikie. more like obsessive, but Scotty has the answer . . . . . . . . . . Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, January 18 2025. ...
General Apathy Posted January 18 #27431 Posted January 18 10 hours ago, earlymb said: My guess would be these spare parts had to be coated with SOMETHING and they got whatever was closest to the paint storage's door, or maybe some left-over paint? Some parts were primed, black, some OD. I found my air cleaner brackets were primed black before being fit to the body, which was already OD then. Everything got a final coat of OD after that. There is even a website about colours of jeep parts, which is used a lot by jeep restorers including myself: http://jeepdraw.com/PART_COLOURS.htm . Hi Earlymb, yes I am in line with what you say that they were sprayed with whatever was available or already loaded in the spray gun, ' knowing ' they would receive a top-coat later in production. If I recall correctly wasn't there a previous mention of a new old stock air filter base that was unpainted when the carton was opened, lots of strange unexplained things occurred during WWII production. Post WWII in the UK, the government paid a commercial firm to open wartime stocks and inspect them, and then repack them. Apparently they were paid by the number of cartons repacked. It was later found that either the company or the staff were separating items to increase the count of cartons. Pairs of RAF flying gauntlets were re-packed as singles, a left and a right. I have personally encountered Jeep spares such as sets of ignition points split into two cartons, totally unusable without the second half in a separate carton, and many other similar examples. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, January 18 2025. ...
mikie Posted January 18 #27432 Posted January 18 6 hours ago, General Apathy said: . hi mikie. more like obsessive, but Scotty has the answer . . . . . . . . . . Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, January 18 2025. ... I’ll give Scotty his opinion on what color jeep parts should be painted…
earlymb Posted January 18 #27433 Posted January 18 It was about -2C today, so sane people stay inside. Me on the other hand spent the day in the garage again, mainly stripping, priming and painting some small parts and some more clearing of the garage itself. I also replaced one of my tool boards for a bigger one, installed a small vice on my 2nd workbench and completed a few more small chores. Last week I removed the 2 circuit breakers from their bracket. Since they were covered in paint I let them soak in brake fluid for a week, brushed them clean, thoroughly rinsed them in clean water and dried them. They are the original Klixon thermal breakers, one in 5 amps for the fuel gauge and the other 15 amps for the horn. This was later changed to both 15 amps. I think this is the first time they were removed from their place since installation at the Willys factory. Edit: I uploaded 2 photo's but they are completely black?
mikie Posted January 18 #27434 Posted January 18 10 minutes ago, earlymb said: It was about -2C today, so sane people stay inside. Me on the other hand spent the day in the garage again, mainly stripping, priming and painting some small parts and some more clearing of the garage itself. I also replaced one of my tool boards for a bigger one, installed a small vice on my 2nd workbench and completed a few more small chores. Last week I removed the 2 circuit breakers from their bracket. Since they were covered in paint I let them soak in brake fluid for a week, brushed them clean, thoroughly rinsed them in clean water and dried them. They are the original Klixon thermal breakers, one in 5 amps for the fuel gauge and the other 15 amps for the horn. This was later changed to both 15 amps. I think this is the first time they were removed from their place since installation at the Willys factory. Edit: I uploaded 2 photo's but they are completely black? Sorry, no pictures there at all. Sounds like you got a lot accomplished. it’s a nice sunny about 14C, 57F here now. I’m working on some decorations for my daughter’s wedding. It’s less than two weeks away. I’m not freaking out at all. Nope not a bit. mikie
BryanJ Posted January 18 #27435 Posted January 18 Not so sunny in North Florida lately, frost on the ground for the past two weeks and they’re talking the possibility of SNOW! In Florida!
General Apathy Posted January 18 #27436 Posted January 18 10 minutes ago, BryanJ said: Not so sunny in North Florida lately, frost on the ground for the past two weeks and they’re talking the possibility of SNOW! In Florida! . Hi Bryan, maybe that's the real reason ' Snowbirds ' move south looking for the snow . . . . . . . . . . . 😹 Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, January 18 2025. ,,,
General Apathy Posted January 18 #27437 Posted January 18 . Normandy Find . . . . . . . . . . . This Willys front bumper was found in a farmers field near Ste Mere Eglise, he donated it to a local friends Jeep collection. It has a short length of wire cutter bar still welded to the bumper, sadly the white painted markings are too far deteriorated to read. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, January 18 2025. ...
mikie Posted January 19 #27438 Posted January 19 And now for something completely different, not military, but still cool. 1960 Cadillac owner’s manual. I found it in a box of free books a neighbor has by the sidewalk. I couldn’t resist it. Do any of you have or are interested in vintage civilian vehicles? mikie
General Apathy Posted January 19 #27439 Posted January 19 . Well it was freezing this morning when I got the Jeep out, I had wiped my fingers over the carburettor before realising that the cold fuel surging through the galley's and passageways had created ice on the outside of the carburettor . . . . . a particularly cold day, really wish I had photographed the ice before touching it. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, January 19 2025. ...
Scarecrow Posted January 19 #27440 Posted January 19 14 hours ago, mikie said: And now for something completely different, not military, but still cool. 1960 Cadillac owner’s manual. I found it in a box of free books a neighbor has by the sidewalk. I couldn’t resist it. Do any of you have or are interested in vintage civilian vehicles? mikie Mikie, Does this answer your question? :) 1941 Chevy.
General Apathy Posted January 19 #27441 Posted January 19 18 hours ago, mikie said: And now for something completely different, not military, but still cool. 1960 Cadillac owner’s manual. I found it in a box of free books a neighbor has by the sidewalk. I couldn’t resist it. Do any of you have or are interested in vintage civilian vehicles? mikie . Hi mikie, In the late 80's I used to do return visits with Medal of Honour winner Ernest Childers, in 1989 he invited me to attend the Medal of Honour convention in New Mexico, it was great being in the same hotel as around 150 MoH winners ( I achieved 72 signatures in a Medal of Honor book that Childers gave me ). After the convention we returned to his home in Oklahoma City, while there he related that he was no longer capable of climbing in and out of his 60's Cadillac and was offering it to me as a gift. I had to decline his kind offer as in my mind it would have been like driving something like an aircraft carrier on the small narrow crowded English roads and even more so in city centres built in the times of Charles Dickens. His second offer was his abandoned farm in the countryside outside Oklahoma City, again another kind gesture but I had a business partnership back in the UK with my brother, and there was not much prospect of every working this property as a farm again. It was an ancestral family property and as he aged he was unable to operate it, I think he had one daughter who lived and worked in New York. It reminded me very much of a John Wayne cowboy setting, thinking about it now, I think it was actually in Broken Arrow where he was born. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, January 19 2025. ...
General Apathy Posted January 19 #27442 Posted January 19 On 1/18/2025 at 9:36 PM, earlymb said: It was about -2C today, so sane people stay inside. Me on the other hand spent the day in the garage again, mainly stripping, priming and painting some small parts and some more clearing of the garage itself. I also replaced one of my tool boards for a bigger one, installed a small vice on my 2nd workbench and completed a few more small chores. Last week I removed the 2 circuit breakers from their bracket. Since they were covered in paint I let them soak in brake fluid for a week, brushed them clean, thoroughly rinsed them in clean water and dried them. They are the original Klixon thermal breakers, one in 5 amps for the fuel gauge and the other 15 amps for the horn. This was later changed to both 15 amps. I think this is the first time they were removed from their place since installation at the Willys factory. Edit: I uploaded 2 photo's but they are completely black? . Hi earlymb, Yes we have both been working outdoors this week in the minus zero temperatures. I have had to replace the battery and whilst doing so I replaced the regulator for a new old stock unit to ensure that the regulator would work correctly and not cook the battery by the regulator overcharging. Looking at the interior workings of the old regulator it is obvious that we are looking at 80 / 100 years old technology, it's not transistorised or electronic units. Below photos of the new battery, the old regulator, front and rear of the old regulator's interior units, the new regulator casing and a wiring diagram of the charging system, connecting the generator, regulator and battery to the ammeter gauge on the dash. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, January 19 2025. ...
General Apathy Posted January 19 #27443 Posted January 19 5 hours ago, Scarecrow said: Mikie, Does this answer your question? :) 1941 Chevy. . Hi Scarecrow, I take it that the Chevy is your own, very nice and enjoyable in all weathers . . . . . . . . . 👍🏼 and especially with air-conditioning, windows-up, windows-down. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 😹 Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, January 19 2025. ...
mikie Posted January 20 #27444 Posted January 20 8 hours ago, General Apathy said: . Hi Scarecrow, I take it that the Chevy is your own, very nice and enjoyable in all weathers . . . . . . . . . 👍🏼 and especially with air-conditioning, windows-up, windows-down. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 😹 Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, January 19 2025. ... Oh you must mean elbow powered air conditioning. mikie
Scarecrow Posted January 20 #27445 Posted January 20 15 hours ago, General Apathy said: . Hi Scarecrow, I take it that the Chevy is your own, very nice and enjoyable in all weathers . . . . . . . . . 👍🏼 and especially with air-conditioning, windows-up, windows-down. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 😹 Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, January 19 2025. ... Hi Ken, Yes its mine. It was a great Father/Son restoration project, done about 10 years ago. Currently not running as I've had the starter rebuilt and haven't done the install yet. Right now my 42 GPW is better in the snow. 😄
earlymb Posted January 20 #27446 Posted January 20 19 hours ago, General Apathy said: . Hi earlymb, Yes we have both been working outdoors this week in the minus zero temperatures. I have had to replace the battery and whilst doing so I replaced the regulator for a new old stock unit to ensure that the regulator would work correctly and not cook the battery by the regulator overcharging. Looking at the interior workings of the old regulator it is obvious that we are looking at 80 / 100 years old technology, it's not transistorised or electronic units. Below photos of the new battery, the old regulator, front and rear of the old regulator's interior units, the new regulator casing and a wiring diagram of the charging system, connecting the generator, regulator and battery to the ammeter gauge on the dash. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, January 19 2025. ... Hi Ken, unless the shade hides details that appears to be an early type cover w/o the ribs and with the rubber gasket? Is the date code still readable? That NOS unit (standard type with ribs) looks amazing and I have saved that reference that pic as a reference for the correct paint job. There's always a debate if it should be crackle paint or wrinkle paint, and this clearly shows the crackle paint is correct. I think that old unit can easily be checked and adjusted to your generator of required? It doesn't look bad at all. JMP sells a modern electronic regulator that fits into the original housing and can be switched to either 6V or 12V, but my old regulator works just fine. About those pics of the thermal circuit breakers that failed to upload earlier, let's try that again: Unfortunately the mounting screws were frozen solid and had to be cut, but there's no reason not to install these breakers again now they have been cleaned.
CurraheeMan Posted January 20 #27447 Posted January 20 <Moving post to different forum, giving deletion is disabled>
Mr_Flibble Posted January 21 #27448 Posted January 21 I've been working on repairing that US Army Graflex Combat-70 KE-4 camera I got last week. One of the shutter curtains was disintegrating and another broken part stops the whole thing from working. Preparing the shutter curtain replacement. I spent more time hunting for that roll of curtain material I had stashed somewhere...... That little metal lip on the lower left is supposed to be attached and pointing down the hole in the wheel on the right. It's snapped off. It should normally hit a cam underneath that engages/cuts off the spring motor drive when the film has advanced far enough and the shutter is fully wound up. For the first prototype fix I cut down a strip of brass from an old dog tax tag (The long-gone good boy proved he was still a good boy) and shaped it like an L. Then spent an hour refining the shape and size. So it could finally clamp into position. After making sure everything meshes correctly I'll probably epoxy it in place. The L-shape isn't actually working, it needs to be more of a "T" with the part protruding down the opening sitting more towards the center of the wheel. But that's what Prototype 2 will be for. My main worry is reassembly and getting all the gear timings correct. Luckily I've scored a PDF of the original US Army service manual TM 11-2343 which explains the process in great detail.....if only the images and explanations weren't 10 pages apart.....
General Apathy Posted January 21 #27449 Posted January 21 . Hello Flibble, Fantastic, now that really is true repair work, and thanks for showing the complexity involved, I think I will stick to changing a battery and a regulator, bon courage with the work. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, January 21 2025. ...
Mr_Flibble Posted January 21 #27450 Posted January 21 Cheers Ken. I find there's a lot of shared interest between people who like collecting and working on vintage cars, vintage watches, vintage firearms and vintage cameras. Something about fine-mechanics that's so appealing.
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