MCDUFF Posted July 4, 2020 Share #16651 Posted July 4, 2020 Hi Ken I found an old magazine publication in amongst my paperwork "The second Great War" from July 1946. Within it are some 'then and now' photos of 1944 and 2 years later in 1946. I enclose photos here. They cover Coutances, Marigny, Montebourg, Periers and St Lo. Although not on the beaches, they are very interesting Normandy break-out areas. It is fascinating to see how patched up and cleaned up the towns were by then. I hope the photos are clear enough and of interest! Cheers Graham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCDUFF Posted July 4, 2020 Share #16652 Posted July 4, 2020 Within the same magazine "The second Great War" July 1946 is a bit of British humour.... Oh to own one of those 75mm SP gun Halftracks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikie Posted July 4, 2020 Share #16653 Posted July 4, 2020 Those are neat. Good find! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted July 5, 2020 Share #16654 Posted July 5, 2020 On 7/4/2020 at 5:10 PM, MCDUFF said: Hi Ken I found an old magazine publication in amongst my paperwork "The second Great War" from July 1946. Within it are some 'then and now' photos of 1944 and 2 years later in 1946. I enclose photos here. They cover Coutances, Marigny, Montebourg, Periers and St Lo. Although not on the beaches, they are very interesting Normandy break-out areas. It is fascinating to see how patched up and cleaned up the towns were by then. I hope the photos are clear enough and of interest! Cheers Graham . Hi Graham, many thanks for taking the time to make the posts showing the different towns Then & Now . . . . . . very enjoyable. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, July 05 2020. ( today would have been my fathers birthday ) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted July 5, 2020 Share #16655 Posted July 5, 2020 . German barbed wire stakes . . . . . . . many people think of American M1 helmets as all the same, again that all Jeeps are the same unaware of all the small difference of style and materials incorporated into each one. Initially looking at German barbed wire stakes they all look identical certainly the poles standing above ground level, however the plates at the base of the stakes below ground have differences, so far I have three different styles. In no particular order here are the three styles. #1 first up, the this stake is riveted to the topside of the plate with the use of three ' L ' shape brackets, with only the rivet heads visible on the underside off the plate. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, July 05 2020. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted July 5, 2020 Share #16656 Posted July 5, 2020 German barbed wire stakes . . . . . . . many people think of American M1 helmets as all the same, again that all Jeeps are the same unaware of all the small difference of style and materials incorporated into each one. Initially looking at German barbed wire stakes they all look identical certainly the poles standing above ground level, however the plates at the base of the stakes below ground have differences, so far I have three different styles. In no particular order here are the three styles. #2, second up several inches of the lower end of the stake are cut passed through slots in the plate folded underneath and riveted through the plate. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, July 05 2020. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted July 5, 2020 Share #16657 Posted July 5, 2020 . German barbed wire stakes . . . . . . . many people think of American M1 helmets as all the same, again that all Jeeps are the same unaware of all the small difference of style and materials incorporated into each one. Initially looking at German barbed wire stakes they all look identical certainly the poles standing above ground level, however the plates at the base of the stakes below ground have differences, so far I have three different styles. In no particular order here are the three styles. #3, third up, several inches of the lower end of the stake are cut passed through slots in the plate folded underneath and riveted through the plate. However this stake also has two shaped support brackets bolted on the top side of the plate. Once in the ground with a foot or two of compacted soil on the plate then the stakes are virtually unremovable without digging out. In fact soil was sufficient to hold them steady without the need for concrete, many of this stakes can be seen bent over or almost flattened by heavy vehicles or tanks having passed over them and still not wrenched out the ground. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, July 05 2020. . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted July 5, 2020 Share #16658 Posted July 5, 2020 On 7/4/2020 at 5:10 PM, MCDUFF said: Hi Ken I found an old magazine publication in amongst my paperwork "The second Great War" from July 1946. Within it are some 'then and now' photos of 1944 and 2 years later in 1946. I enclose photos here. They cover Coutances, Marigny, Montebourg, Periers and St Lo. Although not on the beaches, they are very interesting Normandy break-out areas. It is fascinating to see how patched up and cleaned up the towns were by then. I hope the photos are clear enough and of interest! Cheers Graham Thanks for posting, Graham. Very interesting. Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted July 5, 2020 Share #16659 Posted July 5, 2020 Hi Ken, the term stakeholder comes to mind........................... Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted July 5, 2020 Share #16660 Posted July 5, 2020 On 7/2/2020 at 1:24 PM, General Apathy said: . Hi Mike, sad to hear that you feel you might never make it here to Normandy, nothing to stop you getting a Jeep though, I found you Jeeps for sale in California, sadly you will be not just a day late and a dollar short, you're 74 years late and several hundred dollars short . . . . . . . . Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, July 02 2020. . Hi Ken nice add. Regarding surplus I found this article in the Stars and Stripes of may 10th, 1945. Jeeps weren't made directly available as you can see. This was not to everyone's liking though......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogsbody Posted July 5, 2020 Share #16661 Posted July 5, 2020 From the same S&S but not related........obviously spoken from the heart 😊 Rene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted July 5, 2020 Share #16662 Posted July 5, 2020 45 minutes ago, Dogsbody said: Hi Ken, the term stakeholder comes to mind........................... Rene . Hi Rene, I would have staked money on either you or Mikie coming up with a pun . . . . . . . lets see if Mikie gets wired enough to come up with one if he gets himself to the plate . . . . . . . Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, July 05 2020. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted July 5, 2020 Share #16663 Posted July 5, 2020 34 minutes ago, Dogsbody said: From the same S&S but not related........obviously spoken from the heart 😊 Rene . Hi Rene, some nice pieces from the Stars & Stripes paper, outdated models of Jeeps were sold off to the public all through WWII. About twenty years ago in the USA my friend Ernest Childers ( MoH ) took me to a facility that sold off military articles, only ex-service personnel could purchase from this place, the item that caught my eye at the time was a solid rubber Armalite drill rifle, would have been difficult to get back on a plane with it ?????? Reading the article shown above with the writer complaining that he found people trying to tell others what to do rang a bell with me. Over the last ten years and accelerating more recently is the phenomenon of people in the entertainment industry preaching their pet subject to the audiences and insisting that the audience should fall in line with those thoughts. If I have paid to see a singer sing, I want songs, or for a sports person to play sport and I don't wish to be dictated to . . . . . . . . Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, July 05 2020. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikie Posted July 5, 2020 Share #16664 Posted July 5, 2020 2 hours ago, General Apathy said: . Hi Rene, I would have staked money on either you or Mikie coming up with a pun . . . . . . . lets see if Mikie gets wired enough to come up with one if he gets himself to the plate . . . . . . . Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, July 05 2020. . I can't think of a thing so I just wired my cousin Barb to see if she had an idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikie Posted July 5, 2020 Share #16665 Posted July 5, 2020 4 hours ago, General Apathy said: . German barbed wire stakes . . . . . . . many people think of American M1 helmets as all the same, again that all Jeeps are the same unaware of all the small difference of style and materials incorporated into each one. Initially looking at German barbed wire stakes they all look identical certainly the poles standing above ground level, however the plates at the base of the stakes below ground have differences, so far I have three different styles. In no particular order here are the three styles. #3, third up, several inches of the lower end of the stake are cut passed through slots in the plate folded underneath and riveted through the plate. However this stake also has two shaped support brackets bolted on the top side of the plate. Once in the ground with a foot or two of compacted soil on the plate then the stakes are virtually unremovable without digging out. In fact soil was sufficient to hold them steady without the need for concrete, many of this stakes can be seen bent over or almost flattened by heavy vehicles or tanks having passed over them and still not wrenched out the ground. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, July 05 2020. . . You are correct. I never stopped to think about German fence posts. interesting variety of base plates. Wonder how the American and British posts were like. Mikie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikie Posted July 5, 2020 Share #16666 Posted July 5, 2020 On 7/2/2020 at 4:24 AM, General Apathy said: . Hi Mike, sad to hear that you feel you might never make it here to Normandy, nothing to stop you getting a Jeep though, I found you Jeeps for sale in California, sadly you will be not just a day late and a dollar short, you're 74 years late and several hundred dollars short . . . . . . . . Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, July 02 2020. . Yep, 74 years late and dollars short...been there done that. A lot! Mikie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikie Posted July 6, 2020 Share #16667 Posted July 6, 2020 9 hours ago, General Apathy said: . Hi Rene, some nice pieces from the Stars & Stripes paper, outdated models of Jeeps were sold off to the public all through WWII. About twenty years ago in the USA my friend Ernest Childers ( MoH ) took me to a facility that sold off military articles, only ex-service personnel could purchase from this place, the item that caught my eye at the time was a solid rubber Armalite drill rifle, would have been difficult to get back on a plane with it ?????? Reading the article shown above with the writer complaining that he found people trying to tell others what to do rang a bell with me. Over the last ten years and accelerating more recently is the phenomenon of people in the entertainment industry preaching their pet subject to the audiences and insisting that the audience should fall in line with those thoughts. If I have paid to see a singer sing, I want songs, or for a sports person to play sport and I don't wish to be dictated to . . . . . . . . Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, July 05 2020. . My buddy Frank has a very vocal pet peeve about this too. Whenever he complains about some celebrity pontificating on something or other, I just tell him..."But...but... she (or he) is a CELEBRITY! ". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted July 6, 2020 Share #16668 Posted July 6, 2020 10 hours ago, mikie said: I can't think of a thing so I just wired my cousin Barb to see if she had an idea. . Hi Mikie, has Barb wired you back yet . . . . . . . . . . . . I think you staked too much on her helping you, she might get defensive and just string you along from post to post . . . . . . . Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, July 06 2020. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted July 6, 2020 Share #16669 Posted July 6, 2020 . Collectors dream find . . . . . . . . . just acquired this image this morning, very interesting shot which appears to have been photographed at a US homeland base, nice stack of boots, notice the ones positioned at the side of the chairs . . . . . . . . . Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, July 06 2020. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earlymb Posted July 6, 2020 Share #16670 Posted July 6, 2020 On 7/4/2020 at 5:10 PM, MCDUFF said: Hi Ken I found an old magazine publication in amongst my paperwork "The second Great War" from July 1946. Within it are some 'then and now' photos of 1944 and 2 years later in 1946. I enclose photos here. They cover Coutances, Marigny, Montebourg, Periers and St Lo. Although not on the beaches, they are very interesting Normandy break-out areas. It is fascinating to see how patched up and cleaned up the towns were by then. I hope the photos are clear enough and of interest! Cheers Graham The Coutances railway viaduct as it stands today; they managed to replace the Bailey-section by now Location: 49° 2' 8.00" N 1° 26' 28.00" W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted July 6, 2020 Share #16671 Posted July 6, 2020 1 hour ago, earlymb said: The Coutances railway viaduct as it stands today; they managed to replace the Bailey-section by now Location: 49° 2' 8.00" N 1° 26' 28.00" W . Hi Early MB, thanks for the googled photo, I passed this spot last July, on the way through I spotted that there had been a tubular frame put up supporting a large wartime shot of the viaduct. On my return I intended to stop and capture shots of the viaduct, the photo and a photo of them both together however before I returned the framed image had been removed. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, July 06 2020. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutiger83 Posted July 6, 2020 Share #16672 Posted July 6, 2020 5 hours ago, General Apathy said: . Collectors dream find . . . . . . . . . just acquired this image this morning, very interesting shot which appears to have been photographed at a US homeland base, nice stack of boots, notice the ones positioned at the side of the chairs . . . . . . . . . Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, July 06 2020. . Ken, Great picture. What I find interesting is how the floor is made so the soldiers doing the shoe fitting can stand while working rather than having to sit at weird angles. ...Kat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikie Posted July 6, 2020 Share #16673 Posted July 6, 2020 8 hours ago, General Apathy said: . Hi Mikie, has Barb wired you back yet . . . . . . . . . . . . I think you staked too much on her helping you, she might get defensive and just string you along from post to post . . . . . . . Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, July 06 2020. . She can't decide on what to say either. We are both on the fence about it. But I will post once we came up with something. By the way, I really do have a cousin Barb(ara). Mikie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikie Posted July 6, 2020 Share #16674 Posted July 6, 2020 2 hours ago, cutiger83 said: Ken, Great picture. What I find interesting is how the floor is made so the soldiers doing the shoe fitting can stand while working rather than having to sit at weird angles. ...Kat Yes, Kat. I thought that was quite clever too. Mikie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted July 7, 2020 Share #16675 Posted July 7, 2020 . Aerial image Ste Mere Eglise 1960 . . . . . . . . Aerial shot from the internet taken in 1960, the museum in the top right corner hadn't been started as yet, neither was the now regular feature of the paratrooper dummy hanging from the church. Very few cars to be seen a couple in the square and a couple over on the left of the photo, the American cemetery in the town was to the left of the football field until it was removed to Omaha Beach area in 1947. Norman D. Landing, Forum Normandy Correspondent, July 07 2020. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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