cabbell2006 Posted January 22, 2012 Share #1 Posted January 22, 2012 Hello everyone, i just picked up this mini Naval medal bar and had a question who would have had been awarded these valor medals? the bronze star has a valor device, the commandation has a valor and gold star, the meritorious has a valor device, the purple heart is missing its device, the good conduct has four stars, the vietnam service has four stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEABEEBRIAN Posted January 22, 2012 Share #2 Posted January 22, 2012 The purple heart would be missing a gold star. Chances are it would have been a 1st class or chief and above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabbell2006 Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share #3 Posted January 22, 2012 wonder what MOS would earn so many valor award, can't see many naval personel racking em up? :think: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEABEEBRIAN Posted January 22, 2012 Share #4 Posted January 22, 2012 It could have been any number of ratings. BM, QM, OS, GM and others. Probably not an Airdale though but you can't rule it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWalsh Posted January 22, 2012 Share #5 Posted January 22, 2012 Special Warfare or Riverine would be the first ones to come to mind... to a lesser degree it could have also been possible for a SeaBee too I suppose... MW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEABEEBRIAN Posted January 22, 2012 Share #6 Posted January 22, 2012 Special Warfare or Riverine would be the first ones to come to mind... to a lesser degree it could have also been possible for a SeaBee too I suppose... MW Riverine is the first group that comes to mind for Vietnam. I am working up a list of the number of naval personnel who earned both a Silver Star and a Bronze Star in Vietnam. The purple heart list is much more limited pre-1983. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabbell2006 Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share #7 Posted January 22, 2012 special warfare came to my mind also but sadly i have no other info on the recipient. thanks all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabbell2006 Posted January 22, 2012 Author Share #8 Posted January 22, 2012 How many are you up to seabeebrian? Riverine is a good possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEABEEBRIAN Posted January 22, 2012 Share #9 Posted January 22, 2012 I'm starting with a list of about 4,000 silver stars. Once I figure out how to flag and remove marines the list will be a lot smaller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
67Rally Posted January 22, 2012 Share #10 Posted January 22, 2012 That's the first NAM I've seen with a Combat "V" which made me suspicious. I had to look it up: "Prior to 4 April 1974, the " V " was authorized for wear on the Legion of Merit, Bronze Star Medal, Joint Service Commendation Medal, Navy Commendation Medal, and Navy Achievement Medal." and "Combat Distinguishing Device. The Combat Distinguishing Device was authorized (for the Navy Achievement Medal) for service subsequent to 17 July 1967, and discontinued in April 1974; it was reauthorized on 17 January 1991." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 22, 2012 Share #11 Posted January 22, 2012 Yep, my money would be on a Riverene E-6 or E-7... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEABEEBRIAN Posted January 23, 2012 Share #12 Posted January 23, 2012 That's the first NAM I've seen with a Combat "V" which made me suspicious. I had to look it up: "Prior to 4 April 1974, the " V " was authorized for wear on the Legion of Merit, Bronze Star Medal, Joint Service Commendation Medal, Navy Commendation Medal, and Navy Achievement Medal." and "Combat Distinguishing Device. The Combat Distinguishing Device was authorized (for the Navy Achievement Medal) for service subsequent to 17 July 1967, and discontinued in April 1974; it was reauthorized on 17 January 1991." We had a number of NAM's and COM's awarded with a Combat V for Fallujah. I'll post the number of them tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0811gysgt Posted January 23, 2012 Share #13 Posted January 23, 2012 I was thinking maybe a Corpsman; particular to the USMC Recon community? I would date these to the 1970's. Fifth award of the USN Good Conduct Medal and no star on the National Defense Service Medal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEABEEBRIAN Posted January 23, 2012 Share #14 Posted January 23, 2012 Here are some (unofficial) quick numbers for Navy enlisted Vietnam era awards: # of USN BS = 90 # of USNR BS = 2 # of USN BV = 4,224 # of USNR BV = 75 # of USN SS = 448 # of USNR SS = 3 After filtering out a number of records due to different spellings of name and different service numbers there are 78 possibilities. Assuming that the member only received one of each award rules out 20 with multiple awards and gives us 58 total possibilities. I'll try to come up with some of the ratings tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swmdo Posted January 23, 2012 Share #15 Posted January 23, 2012 My guess Navy Corpsman, Navy Seals, Naval Aviators, Or Brown Water Navy Types such as BM, EM, GM etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabbell2006 Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share #16 Posted January 23, 2012 thanks all for the wonderful info. :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason G Posted January 23, 2012 Share #17 Posted January 23, 2012 I was leaning towards a Corpsman myself. Great group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabbell2006 Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share #18 Posted January 23, 2012 A corps man is also a good one but would they be eligible for the expert rifle medal? :think: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason G Posted January 23, 2012 Share #19 Posted January 23, 2012 Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack's Son Posted January 23, 2012 Share #20 Posted January 23, 2012 I don't have a better suggestion, but the medals are indicative of a very solid career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulR Posted January 23, 2012 Share #21 Posted January 23, 2012 I was thinking maybe a Corpsman; particular to the USMC Recon community? I would date these to the 1970's. Fifth award of the USN Good Conduct Medal and no star on the National Defense Service Medal. I was guessing a senior PO or CPO who was attached to a Marine unit. Just a guess. It would be cool if there were a way to ID the bar based upon the awards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 24, 2012 Share #22 Posted January 24, 2012 My only drawback about it being from a Corpsman (at least attached to the FMF) is that his VSM should have an FMF device on it. Granted, he could have been an HMC attached to a SEAL unit, but all things considered...finding something like that is a 10 to 1 compared to similar racks from the Riverine forces. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEABEEBRIAN Posted January 24, 2012 Share #23 Posted January 24, 2012 Of the records I have been able to look at the only one with the rate listed so far is a BM1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabbell2006 Posted January 24, 2012 Author Share #24 Posted January 24, 2012 Would anyone have a photo of a riverine bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulR Posted January 24, 2012 Share #25 Posted January 24, 2012 My only drawback about it being from a Corpsman (at least attached to the FMF) is that his VSM should have an FMF device on it. Granted, he could have been an HMC attached to a SEAL unit, but all things considered...finding something like that is a 10 to 1 compared to similar racks from the Riverine forces. Dave Hi Dave, I am new to the US Medals arena; collecting-wise, but when did the EGA FMF device become authorized? Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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