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My apologies if I might have posted this before, but while going through my very small shoe box, I uncovered this. It was an estate sale find a while ago, only had one rod section (11.25" long) and a .30 cal. brush. Khaki color. No manufacturer's ID visible. Soiled/well used. The nomenclature is: CASE, CLEANING ROD, M1-C6573A. Can anyone please tell me what this was issued for? Many thanks in advance, Al Hirschler in Dallas.

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WWII style Cleaning rod case for the M1 Garand Rifle. It should have a T Handle section and three rod sections, a bore brush and a patch eyelet.

 

Wayne


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Thank you mpguy80/08. Does the khaki color date it to early or pre WW2? Thanks again, Al.

 

WWII style Cleaning rod case for the M1 Garand Rifle. It should have a T Handle section and three rod sections, a bore brush and a patch eyelet.

 

Wayne


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Usually that Color is indicative of early war however most items were issued until stocks were used up or newer gear replaced it.


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Usually that Color is indicative of early war however most items were issued until stocks were used up or newer gear replaced it.

 

Thanks. Here are a couple of pics from a three piece kit with the patch tip integral to one of the rods. Was this done to conserve steel since the three piece kit was long enough to clean the Garand and '03 Springfield? It seems to me that the four piece kit may have also been intended for cleaning a longer barrel??? Thanks again, Al.

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Here is my 45 dated one that is in the sale section now. These were used all the way into Vietnam, so unless it is dated doesn't necesaarily mean it's WWII. I have one that is dated 63

 

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...howtopic=132804

 

Thanks hawkdriver. My three section case is not marked fungus proofed or mildew resistant, and with the different shades of OD, I'm thinking that it is mid WW2 or thereabouts. Unfortunately, I can not see any manufacturer name or date.

 

Now to add a little fuel to the fire, attached are a couple of pics of what I have been told is a 2 piece kit for the M1 Carbine. If in fact it is (opinions welcome) for the carbine, did it have its own case or was it issued in the 3 section case? Seems like the short rod would get buried in the 3 section case. Thanks again, Al.

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There is a smaller case for the carbine that isn't as wide.

 

Now I have a question: Are the handles dated in anyway? I have always assumed the silver handles are WW2 manufacture while the black handle ones are post war. Can anybody confirm?

 

Leonardo


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There is a smaller case for the carbine that isn't as wide.

 

Now I have a question: Are the handles dated in anyway? I have always assumed the silver handles are WW2 manufacture while the black handle ones are post war. Can anybody confirm?

 

Leonardo

 

Hello Leonardo. Neither of my silver colored handles are dated. The one in the 3 section case is stamped E. T. CO. on one side and is blank on the other. The handle for what I think is a Carbine kit has raised letters on both sides: A P C O and J.M.C. The length of both rods with the handles are identical--approx 10.75." Anyone have a pic of the case for the Carbine?Thanks, Al.


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Hello Leonardo. Neither of my silver colored handles are dated. The one in the 3 section case is stamped E. T. CO. on one side and is blank on the other. The handle for what I think is a Carbine kit has raised letters on both sides: A P C O and J.M.C. The length of both rods with the handles are identical--approx 10.75." Anyone have a pic of the case for the Carbine?Thanks, Al.

 

 

Anyone have a pic of the case for the M1 Carbine cleaning kit? Thanks, Al.

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Thanks Sabrejet. The case in your post looks just like the 4 section case in my original post, except for the marking style. Methinks that the short rod would get butied in the case, which is much longer. I checked mine again and all four sections are full length, which would allow the short carbine section to travel to the bottom of the case and be difficult to extract. Plus, wouldn't a case with only two sections instead for 4 be sufficient? Thanks, Al.


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Here you go Al.

 

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Winston Churchill

" Life is what happens to you when you're busy making other plans."

John Winston Lennon

 

 

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Here you go Al.

 

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Once again, thanks. So, was it that the three section case was issued to the troops for both the Garand/'03 and the Carbine, with those having the Carbines only getting the kit with two rods??? Uplandmod mentioned a narrower case, so I must have inferred a two section case existed for the Carbine kit. I guess not. Thanks again, Al.


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Sorry I could have been wrong about that, I'm still researching these cases as well and I could of sworn I saw a thinner case that I have assumed was for the carbine. I will have to see where I got that info from.

 

Leonardo


I collect items from The Battle of Iwo Jima (1945).

Top Iwo Jima Items I'm Looking For:

1) IDed 5th MarDiv Corpsman Jumper or Forest Green Coat.

2) IDed Coast Guard Navy Jumper

3) IDed CB's Sea Bee's Navy Jumper

4) IDed 147th Infantry Regiment Army Service Coat

5) IDed 32nd ID Army Service Coat (Occupation Kyushu with 5th MarDiv).

I am always looking for named and dated WWII USMC Forest Green wool alpha jackets/coats from the 5th Marine Division or other units who participated in the battle.

My Blog "Marines In Forest Green" http://marinesinfore...n.blogspot.com/

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Sorry I could have been wrong about that, I'm still researching these cases as well and I could of sworn I saw a thinner case that I have assumed was for the carbine. I will have to see where I got that info from.

 

Leonardo

 

 

Thanks Leonardo. Let me know if you find anything and I will also start a search. Thanks again, Al.


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Thanks, I have a few pictures of Marines carrying these cases into combat on their belts and haversacks during the Iwo Jima campaign. I recently found a Boyt marked case NOS but it was missing all its components. The references I have for these are kind of sparse when it comes to the details of these cases. This site seems to have the only info on these.

 

Cheers!

Leonardo


I collect items from The Battle of Iwo Jima (1945).

Top Iwo Jima Items I'm Looking For:

1) IDed 5th MarDiv Corpsman Jumper or Forest Green Coat.

2) IDed Coast Guard Navy Jumper

3) IDed CB's Sea Bee's Navy Jumper

4) IDed 147th Infantry Regiment Army Service Coat

5) IDed 32nd ID Army Service Coat (Occupation Kyushu with 5th MarDiv).

I am always looking for named and dated WWII USMC Forest Green wool alpha jackets/coats from the 5th Marine Division or other units who participated in the battle.

My Blog "Marines In Forest Green" http://marinesinfore...n.blogspot.com/

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Went to my 1942 dated FM 23-7 and although there were no pictures, look what it says about the cleaning rod case---5 pockets?? Would that be 4 for the rods and a short one for the brush? Also, look at the picture from Lt. Col. William S. Brophy's book "The Springfield 1903 Rifles." Short rod sections and it looks to me like the case openings for the sections are much lower to accomodate easy removal of the short rods. Now that case would work with the short section for the Carbine. And the search continues.....

 

Thanks, Al

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