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I recently purchased a 1918-dated LF&C M1913 with serial number 2186. Unfortunately it has no scabbard. Earlier in this thread it was said LF&C stopped using serial numbers at #4000. Is this an exact number, i.e. did the company make a positive decision they would number the blads up to the number 4000 and then stop with sword 4001, or is 4000 just the estimated terminal number based the spectrum of numbers of which we are aware?

 

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or is 4000 just the estimated terminal number based the spectrum of numbers of which we are aware?

 

It's this. The omission of serial numbers was initiated immediately upon approval of the request.

 

Nice example, congrats!

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The thread has not been active in a while but here's my contribution if data is still needed for the project.

 

My Pattons are as follows::
1913 SN - 3913 Type 3 Scabbard
1914 SN - 13261 No Scabbard
1914 SN - 14816 No Scabbard
1918 LF&C SN 3508 Type 3 Scabbard. The blade was either badly bent or broken and then cut-off to about 23-1/4". The last 1-1/4" has a slight "wave" to it.
1918 LF&C No serial number Type 3 Scabbard
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Thanks! I have #14816 as being up on Ebay in October 2007, and #18850 was on Ebay in December 2017, presumably you bought it. The others are new to me, much appreciated.

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I both of them (14816 and 18850) off ebay. Actually, all except the 1913 M1913, which was my first one, were acquired via ebay.

 

I found the 1913 in an old antique store out in Boerne TX (west of San Antonio) back in 1985 while I was a Navy SWO assigned for shore duty at Kelly AFB.

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Thought I would bump this back to the top with the 2 serial number I saw at the Dallas show today

 

1913

7380

Type 3 scabbard

 

1914

21404

Type 3 scabbard

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Thought I would bump this back to the top with the 2 serial number I saw at the Dallas show today

 

1913

7380

Type 3 scabbard

 

1914

21404

Type 3 scabbard

 

Thanks for sharing the information!

 

7380 was on Ebay in February 2009.

 

21404 was on Ebay in November 2016.

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I can add the following from my collection-

 

SA 1913 #3474 Type 1 Scabbard 

SA 1914 #18739 Type 2 Scabbard 

SA 1914 #18242 Type 3 Scabbard (Sold)

 

Also have three LF&C, no s/n 1918, 1919 and Garrison 1919.

 

John

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7 hours ago, B-17Guy said:

I can add the following from my collection-

 

SA 1913 #3474 Type 1 Scabbard 

SA 1914 #18739 Type 2 Scabbard 

SA 1914 #18242 Type 3 Scabbard (Sold)

 

Also have three LF&C, no s/n 1918, 1919 and Garrison 1919.

 

John

Thanks!  Those are all new serial numbers to me!

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On 1/8/2022 at 6:05 PM, Red Devil said:

I can contribute SA 1913 #616 with a nickel scabbard.

Thanks!  I got the pics you posted here:

Good to see you picked up a scabbard for it.

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 I know I'm late to this thread, but thought I would provide info on my early patton saber. I'll dig it out and post pictures when I get a chance. 

 

SA 1913 dated, serial number "83",no scabbard, unit numbers stamped on the guard. I suspect this could have been issued in the original trials? 

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6 hours ago, blademan said:

 I know I'm late to this thread, but thought I would provide info on my early patton saber. I'll dig it out and post pictures when I get a chance. 

 

SA 1913 dated, serial number "83",no scabbard, unit numbers stamped on the guard. I suspect this could have been issued in the original trials? 

Yes, it certainly sounds like one of the 200 test sabers.

 

#83 is new to me, pictures and specifics on the unit marking would be very greatly appreciated!

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14 hours ago, Spathologist said:

Yes, it certainly sounds like one of the 200 test sabers.

 

#83 is new to me, pictures and specifics on the unit marking would be very greatly appreciated!

I'll work on locating and pics

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The serial number is "62" instead of as previously indicated.  

 

Note stamped numbers next to serial number and on guard. Assuming they see issue marks to the units evaluating the first 200.

 

Came to me with no scabbard. Assume it was issued with a tent pole scabbard. 

 

Hope this helps. 

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6 hours ago, collectsmedals said:

Here is mine, Springfield Armory 1913 Serial Number 4277. 

That's also a new one for me, thanks!

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