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Pattern 1912 USMC summer cotton uniform (trousers not photographed)

identified to a Marine who served in Cuba in 1918. I have posted the

uniform before; however, I began to accessorize it with a hat and

backpack.

 

Pattern 1912 USMC Campaign Hat w/ string ties (Dated 1918).

 

This pattern hat has only three grommet holes, lacking the one in the

rear. In the close-up photo one may observe a recognizable feature

of this hat, the folded brim, which is folded under and sewn in place.

Since I'm not sure when this pattern hat went out of use, I don't know

whether this particular hat EGA is correct for the era; it did come

with the hat.

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Prior to my acquiring the haversack, I displayed the uniform

with the Mills No. 202 navy and marine suspenders and an unmarked

cartridge belt. I prefer it with the pack although there are

very few photos showing marines wearing this pack versus many

photos of marines wearing the suspenders and a cartridge belt.

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Pattern 1912 USMC Haversack c/ USMC diaper/extender. (undated)

 

In the previous photo (#2), the third grommet hole visible on

the pack's top left is one of the quickest ways to distinguish

between the army pattern 1910 and the USMC pattern 1912 haversack.

 

This pack is marked USMC on the inside rear of the pack just below

where its suspenders are sewn to it. The diaper, or pack extender,

is also unique to the marine corps and differs from the army pattern.

 

Aside from the USMC stamp, the only other markings are the bellhop's

initials, and his number (119); his number is stamped on the meat can

pouch, both bottom corners of the exterior flap.

 

Notice in this photo the rear view of the campaign hat and observe

that it differs from the army campaign hat by the absence of the rear

grommet.

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I am cognizant that this pack has been folded in a manner more similar

to a WWII pack than a WWI; this is because I lack the correct WWI

era USMC blanket, so I have chosen to completely enclose an army one

hidden from view. When I cross paths with the correct one, then I'll

update the display.

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USMC pattern 1912 Campaign hats have a three inch brim folded over

with two rows of stitching. This is one of the quickest ways to

distinguish between army and marine campaign hats. The army campaign

hats used string ties 1911-1916 with late 1916-1920 using leather.

 

Both officers, as well as enlisted marines wore the EGA; however,

only officers wore hat cords in addition. Theirs were scarlet and

gold in color.

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This is a period photo posted by another forum member which I am reposting

for the heck of it. ;-)

 

Taken within the Columbus Palace in Santo Domingo (Dominican Republic) in 1916,

this photo shows marines weraing shirts (not uniform blouses), trousers, campaign

hats, and other sundry accouterments.

 

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I enjoyed the recent posting elsewhere on the forum of late WWI era USMC marked

1911 pistol magazine pouches; I want one.

 

I have a long way to go to complete this display with the correct accouterments:

 

Pattern 1909 or 1910 EGA snap rifle cartridge belt, or

USMC EGA snap 1912 pistol belt w/ depot pouch, or Mills EGA pouch.

USMC shovel carrier.

USMC 1st pattern bandage pouch.

USMC leggings.

USMC WWI blanket.

USMC Springfield Batonet sheath.

USMC EGA snap pattern 1910 canteen, or earlier USMC marked spheroid canteen.

 

I knew I shouldn't have bough this uniform.

 

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Bonjour.

 

Pattern 1912 USMC Haversack c/ USMC diaper/extender. (undated)

 

In the previous photo (#2), the third grommet hole visible on

the pack's top left is one of the quickest ways to distinguish

between the army pattern 1910 and the USMC pattern 1912 haversack...

 

 

But we still do not know the value of the third grommet hole :think:

 

regards solcarlus.

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Nice Display. The hat was a great score. Please keep us updated.

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This is a really nice display Mike, it's always great when you post your early items. Early USMC collecting is a tough field when it comes to acquiring items. But I had always thought that part of the fun in collecting was hunting down the items you need, even if it takes years. In the end when you have a complete display being able to share it with others on the forum is most rewarding.

Frankie G.

 

Check out my US World War I Site,

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Mike great Marine Corps display and tracking the other items down is going to be a challenge but I know by your past displays you're up for it!! :thumbsup:

A people that values its privileges

above its principles will soon lose both.

 

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UPDATE!

 

I recently acquired a pair of "Phila. Depot 1918" marked

USMC leggings, so I thought I'd update this post.

 

In a previous discussion (link below) in 2007, Frankie

(New Romantic) observed that in period photos of USMC

leggings they had the characteristic of possessing a seam

on the inside leg.

 

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...?showtopic=4930

 

The pair that I have possess this feature; moreover, what I

find unusual is that the exterior canvas has been dyed green,

as are the string ties, but the interior still retains its

original mustard color.

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Phila Depot

1918

 

The name "D Simsarian" is stamped on both, as well as the depot

and date.

 

Does anyone have USMC muster rolls?

 

 

 

Answers to previous responses:

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Q1:

 

I missed an inquiry from USMF member Colt1911 regarding how

long I have been putting this together. Answer: Just a couple

of months. The uniform was the first USMC item from the WWI

era that I bought in July of this year (2011).

 

Originally posted (complete) here:

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...howtopic=114731

 

Like forum member Trenchbuff's Complete Medics Belt, it'll likely

take a decade or two to complete it; the missing accouterments

are rare and expensive

 

Q2:

 

Bonjour, Solcarlus!

 

I don't know the function of the 3rd grommet on the haversack.

I have a second 1912 pack with the square tabs and USMC marked

that does not have a third grommet. I don't know which of the two

packs was made first i.e. was the grommet deemed necessary and

added, or was it deemed superfluous and omitted.

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The name "D Simsarian" is stamped on both, as well as the depot

and date.

 

Does anyone have USMC muster rolls?

Dicran Simsarian enlisted Jun 1918, stayed at Parris Island, and was discharged Jan 1919 - convenience of the government, character excellent.


The bended knee is not a tradition of our Corps. (General A. A. Vandegrift, USMC, 5 May 1946)

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I see that 124cav bumped my post. There doesn't appear to be any damage but

I'll be filing a claim with his insurance company and a rapacious ambulance

chaser just in case.

 

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Time for another update (July 2012)

 

A small change has been made since I posted this; in the original post, I used a generic

1912 pistol belt - the type that were made in huge numbers between 1917-1918.

 

This has been replaced with a early pattern 1903/07 Springfield rifle cartridge belt with

domed EGA snaps, as produced between 1907-1916.

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Some other stuff I bought to accessorize a second uniform, which is unfortunately too small

to put on any of my mannequins, is a second pattern 1912 pistol belt displayed with a set

of Mills No. 202 US Navy & Marines suspenders, as well as a post 1917 era USMC depot

manufactured magazine pouch for the model 1911 pistol.

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