General Apathy Posted October 29, 2011 Share #1 Posted October 29, 2011 Hi members and friends ................... Whilst tidying around in my shoebox yesterday I pulled out this WWII leather version of the early WWII field jacket and thought I would share it here with you . It's the only copy that I have knowledge of and many other collectors may never have seen one before either. :think: Two front slash pockets, cuff adjusters, American buttons WWII officers raincoat, collar throat tab, blanket lined. lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share #2 Posted October 29, 2011 cont ................ front side shot showing slash pockets and cuff adjusters. lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share #3 Posted October 29, 2011 cont ................ rear side shot showing bi-swing back, half belt and cuff adjusters. lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share #4 Posted October 29, 2011 cont ................ inside shot showing white cotton label, manufacture by Abbott, Armstrong & Howie a company operating in New Zealand from around the turn of the century and up into the 1940's during WWII. Hope you enjoyed the images of this unusual jacket lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corpl. Cleaver Posted October 29, 2011 Share #5 Posted October 29, 2011 Wow.. it's like a leather M-41. Very interesting to say the least. Tyler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted October 29, 2011 Share #6 Posted October 29, 2011 Very cool Ken! Is it a wearer!? :w00t: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share #7 Posted October 29, 2011 Wow.. it's like a leather M-41. Very interesting to say the least. Tyler Hi Tyler, thanks for your interest in the jacket, sometimes when a collector thinks they have seen it all something comes out the woodwork which helps keep the hobby interesting and moving. :thumbsup: ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corpl. Cleaver Posted October 29, 2011 Share #8 Posted October 29, 2011 Any idea on when or why this jacket was made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OD MAN Posted October 29, 2011 Share #9 Posted October 29, 2011 I would guess this could be a one off jacket tailor made for a US soldier stationed in New Zealand? It could also have been a clothing line this particular company produced to attract business from the US military. :think: Very cool item. Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddmod Posted October 29, 2011 Share #10 Posted October 29, 2011 Not often do I get the opportunity to pull something out of my way, way, way back machine.... I must of had this jacket in the late 1990's.... probably sold it on Ebay (along with a lot of the other really amazing stuff that was just laying around in those days ). This jacket was mfg'd by Scott Leather (Funny all these years I thought it was "SCHOTT", not SCOTT) General Apathy, I envy you for holding onto yours (want to sell it) ? JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share #11 Posted October 29, 2011 Any idea on when or why this jacket was made? Hi Tyler, pure conjecture really as the firm no longer exists as far as I can find out, but other jackets ( such as the Marine Vandegrift jacket ) were made during WWII for the U.S. forces stationed in New Zealand and Australia, similarly as the British made U.S. equipment in Britain during WWII. lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriot Posted October 29, 2011 Share #12 Posted October 29, 2011 I don't know about anyone else, but to me this piece just screams AIRMAN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share #13 Posted October 29, 2011 I would guess this could be a one off jacket tailor made for a US soldier stationed in New Zealand? It could also have been a clothing line this particular company produced to attract business from the US military. :think: Very cool item. Justin Hi Justin, thanks for the ' cool item ' comment, and funnily enough ' oddmod has just posted an identical style jacket made by a different company. :thumbsup: I was going to suggest that maybe forum members could study PTO photo's more closely to see if we can spot one of these being worn. :think: lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share #14 Posted October 29, 2011 Not often do I get the opportunity to pull something out of my way, way, way back machine....I must of had this jacket in the late 1990's.... probably sold it on Ebay (along with a lot of the other really amazing stuff that was just laying around in those days ). This jacket was mfg'd by Scott Leather (Funny all these years I thought it was "SCHOTT", not SCOTT) General Apathy, I envy you for holding onto yours (want to sell it) ? JC Hi JC, really really pleased to see another example of this jacket out there, although made by a different company. Sorry to hear that you parted with your jacket but thankfully you kept photographs to record it. Also sorry to say I am holding onto this one at the moment, but who knows when. lewis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddmod Posted October 29, 2011 Share #15 Posted October 29, 2011 Just a couple of thoughts. I have seen similar, and even older "U.S. Army" labels on jackets that are strictly mfg'd for commercial use, so that is a possibility with this jacket; a leather, civilian made M-41 jacket. Remember how many "Tanker" & "B-15" jackets were made for the civilian market after WW2. If it was a jacket used by the Army, I'd suggest looking for pictures of transport drivers or dispatch riders wearing them. If you look at photos from "Back in the day" blue collar workers, factory workers, truck drives, longshoremen all wore bad-a** leather jackets. JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddmod Posted October 29, 2011 Share #16 Posted October 29, 2011 Hi JC, really really pleased to see another example of this jacket out there, although made by a different company. Sorry to hear that you parted with your jacket but thankfully you kept photographs to record it. Also sorry to say I am holding onto this one at the moment, but who knows when. lewis Thanks Lewis, you should see some of the flight jackets & leather jerkins I used to have !!! I don't blame you for holding on to it.... I WOULD ! JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share #17 Posted October 29, 2011 Just a couple of thoughts. I have seen similar, and even older "U.S. Army" labels on jackets that are strictly mfg'd for commercial use, so that is a possibility with this jacket; a leather, civilian made M-41 jacket. Remember how many "Tanker" & "B-15" jackets were made for the civilian market after WW2. If it was a jacket used by the Army, I'd suggest looking for pictures of transport drivers or dispatch riders wearing them. If you look at photos from "Back in the day" blue collar workers, factory workers, truck drives, longshoremen all wore bad-a** leather jackets. JC Hi JC, good thoughts on the blue collar workers, however the New Zealand manufacturing connection has me wondering. We have a few New Zealand and Australian members of the forum lets hope that they check in on this topic and either shed some information on the jacket or engage in some research. ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Apathy Posted October 29, 2011 Author Share #18 Posted October 29, 2011 I don't know about anyone else, but to me this piece just screams AIRMAN! Hi Patriot, thanks another line of thought that could be looked into. :think: ken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gpw_42 Posted October 30, 2011 Share #19 Posted October 30, 2011 I have a friend who's preparing to move to Korea, I might need to send him some buttons, pics and my measurements... Ken, thanks for starting this thread! Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted October 30, 2011 Share #20 Posted October 30, 2011 Fantastic jacket in every way , no doubt British or NZ made . Thanks for the schooling lads . owen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Posted October 30, 2011 Share #21 Posted October 30, 2011 The biggest number of leather jackets, vests and various field gear elements was manufactured for all Allied troops in North Africa. I would say this jacket comes from the US Army's terrain of North African campaign of 1942-43. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted October 30, 2011 Share #22 Posted October 30, 2011 Ken...send some all-round pics to Gary Eastman....then, in six months we'll all be able to own / wear one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddmod Posted October 30, 2011 Share #23 Posted October 30, 2011 Another clue to look into... The tag on the jacket I used to own appears to read; SCOTT MFG COY The word, or abbreviation "COY" is not one that I am familiar with in American English. Perhaps it is an English - English abbreviation ? Also, here is link to a jacket I found in a museum several years ago.... that jacket is nothing like Lewis's jacket, but the civilian "US Army" tag is worth noting. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...;hl=indian+wars JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deros Posted December 10, 2011 Share #24 Posted December 10, 2011 Ken, an unusual item indeed. No need to go to Eastman though....... http://superiorjackets.com/?p=469 Tim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swmdo Posted December 10, 2011 Share #25 Posted December 10, 2011 Motorcycle dispatch rider jacket for troops? Who rode the harleys? :think: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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