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My fruit salad is what Old Blood & Guts had while he was 3 stars. At this event the guns were props. I don't take the real steel out in the Socialist Republic of Illinois!

 

ps - Patton did not always wear the foreign awards and he had a number of different uniforms with different fruit salads. :D

 

Also, his Army of Occupation medal was awarded posthumously in the mid 1950s. So unless Nazi sientists reanimated him, he wouldnt be wearing one! :lol:

 

P.S., I hope I am not offending anyone! If I am, I mean no disrepect to the General.

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I have the opposite problem. I do Gen. Patton on occasion. Mostly for school presentations, special event's etc. People say I am too young to be Patton. I pride myself in educating people about Ole Blood & Guts. I portray Lt. Gen. G.S. Patton Jr...NOT George C. Scott's version of Patton. :D

 

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LOL! I know that kraut on the left!

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Mr. Meyer is in his USAF Class A’s in this shot, he doesn’t have a WW2 Class A uniform. He’s the third from the right standing, I’m standing two people to the right of him.

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After WW2, he joined the USAF and retired I think as a Major. If you look closely, you can barely see his CIB from WW2. He said people used to stop and ask what that was about every time he wore it on active duty in the USAF. This news story talks about him in good detail. The book his wife wrote is VERY good and I have read it several times. The article makes it sound like he restored the Jeep and that was that. He has a correct field uniform and loves showing up at events with our group when he can. Such a great guy, too, friendly as can be and completely willing to talk about his (well documented) experiences. And his Jeep restoration is one of the better ones I’ve ever seen. I have looked but I don’t think I have a photo of him at one of our events in uniform, I’ll be sure to take such a photo the next time I see him.

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My fruit salad is what Old Blood & Guts had while he was 3 stars. At this event the guns were props. I don't take the real steel out in the Socialist Republic of Illinois!

 

ps - Patton did not always wear the foreign awards and he had a number of different uniforms with different fruit salads. :D

Found a picture of ol' George and his good buddy Georgi (Zhukov) we all know how he loved the Russians. ;) But here he looks almost bare chested compared to the other.

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Getting back to old people, thanks to Christian Nelson and Harry Rudolph decided to have a ww-2 ID card made for me, check out my birthdate, 01-09-87,

meaning 1887, cheated on a few pounds too. :lol: Only showing the backside, don't want to show my mug, but this guy did an excellent job! :thumbsup:

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I put on the old ww-2 wool shirt and tie, the Mrs. took a couple digital snapshots, (thinking all the time "old fool") and he did the rest!

Website German/English; http://www.ww2-reproductions.com/index.html

eBay; http://www.ebay.com/itm/CUSTOM-WWII-US-WAR...=item416191d4e6

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A few years back, we done the "Gusville Saloon", here's a FSSF veteran William "Sam" Magee (in middle)

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In 2009 we all went to Italy, where we all climbed Le Defensa, on the Mignano Gap, just south of Cassino:

Us Arriving in Rome, ciampino airport:

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Getting ready to climb:

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Stopped for a breather, and, well take a look:

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Sam (age 86):

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On top, Sam performed the tie ceremony

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Arriving on top of La Difensa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6mlP9B6n1Q...mp;feature=plcp

 

Where we opened a repro 10in1 ration me and John produced (if ye need a translator from my Scots, letters on a postcard):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DpGTPbQkRA...gH0C_cw&ind ex=23&feature=plcp

 

Later, we went to San Pietro Infine where we, well, take a look (anyone remember Bilko on here, he's the big lad, Staff Srgt) :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hla0MHCa4UY...mp;feature=plcp

 

Sorry for hijacking yer post, but it's just that it's great to do "re-enacting" where it happened, with someone who was there.... :thumbsup:

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You're more then welcome to hijack my post. Looks like you guys know how to have fun too. This thread is about us oldtimers, there may be "Snow on the roof, but there's still fire in the furnace"!

I read about your buddy Bilko in the Forum here somewhere, passed away long before his time, may he rest in peace.

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I've tried to scan and post a picture from Stantons "US Army Uniforms of WWII". Page 46 shows a 59 YOA private getting a award for oldest enlisted. I can't get it small enough to down load. If someone has the book and skill to maybe scan and post then there would be no more people saying your to old to reenact

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I didn't get started in reenacting until 2007 at the age of 43. I started with WW2 Airborne because I liked the uniform and I've been doing it steady ever since. A couple/three years ago I built a Vietnam War Airborne and generic infantry impression, and this year I've added WW2 ETO and PTO pilot. My current project is WW2 USMC. I run three miles three times a week just to keep from getting heavier (I'm 5'7", 180 lbs).

 

I have a master plan, which is as I get older and fatter and less Airborne-like, I will migrate to USMC (P42 camoflage hides a few pounds), then to Air Forces as an older bomber group captain, and possibly Navy as career officer. My Airborne equipment will go on a mannequin, along with the weapons, so at least I can still participate in Living History events.

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Our oldest member is 88 years old George Wisniewski. He is a active WW II veteran of the 7th Armored Division. Yes is still marches and fights at reenactments in much of his original uniform with a carbine. He has captued many a German soldier at events and is the star of many other reenactment. Pappy is starting to slow down. He will be fighting at Remagen, aka Tidioute ,Pa again this year. He will be part of General Colt's staff.

 

Pat, 99th Infantry Division, Erie ,Pa

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Our oldest member is 88 years old George Wisniewski. He is a active WW II veteran of the 7th Armored Division. Yes is still marches and fights at reenactments in much of his original uniform with a carbine. He has captued many a German soldier at events and is the star of many other reenactment. Pappy is starting to slow down. He will be fighting at Remagen, aka Tidioute ,Pa again this year. He will be part of General Colt's staff.

 

Pat, 99th Infantry Division, Erie ,Pa

 

Here's to George Wisniewski. :salute:

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I guess it depends on the individual. As has been noted previously, if you're just going out to play Army it really doesn't matter if you're playing a WW-II combat airborne trooper and are 70 years old and/or are 5'5'' tall and weigh 250 lbs because you're just role-playing.

 

But now, the other side of that coin. I haven't been around the re-enacting section for quite some time but when I was, many here were expressing the need for absolute accuracy, down to the eyelets of the boots/shoes and the number of stitches in a piece of clothing. If that absolute accuracy is the goal, and the depiction is a combat unit, particularly Korea and earlier, then (in my opinion) one can, indeed, be too old or too fat to pull off an accurate re-enactment.

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I guess it depends on the individual. As has been noted previously, if you're just going out to play Army it really doesn't matter if you're playing a WW-II combat airborne trooper and are 70 years old and/or are 5'5'' tall and weigh 250 lbs because you're just role-playing.

 

But now, the other side of that coin. I haven't been around the re-enacting section for quite some time but when I was, many here were expressing the need for absolute accuracy, down to the eyelets of the boots/shoes and the number of stitches in a piece of clothing. If that absolute accuracy is the goal, and the depiction is a combat unit, particularly Korea and earlier, then (in my opinion) one can, indeed, be too old or too fat to pull off an accurate re-enactment.

Hi USMCRECON,

Thanks for jumping in. Looks like you hit the nail on the head, if you're going to play army, go for it, if you're going to reenact an authentic ww-2 US Army, US Marine, US Navy, USAAF, USCG impression and the rest, then I reckon age does make a difference. But finding these two earlier mentioned older gentlemen, Christian Nelson and Harry Rudolph, gave me personally a little more reason to hang in here a little longer, without feeling too guilty. ;)

You being a Marine, might like this short story, about one of my best buddies since puberty. I joined the army in 1972, my buddy said he'll join too, but later, and we'll meet up in Germany, so later he went downtown to enlist, the army recruiter's office was full, the Marine recruiter's office was empty, so he went in for a chat, a four year chat with the USMC! :lol:

Staying on the subject of Marines and reenacting, some of my Swiss buddies did a USMC reenactment of Tarawa, also in here in the Forum somewhere, asked me if I'd like to join in, I said sure, but only as a civilian War Photogragher, I can still imagine hearing my ol' Marine buddy jumping in my dufflebag for wearing a USMC uniform, there are just some things you don't do! :w00t:

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Hi USMCRECON,

Thanks for jumping in. Looks like you hit the nail on the head, if you're going to play army, go for it, if you're going to reenact an authentic ww-2 US Army, US Marine, US Navy, USAAF, USCG impression and the rest, then I reckon age does make a difference. But finding these two earlier mentioned older gentlemen, Christian Nelson and Harry Rudolph, gave me personally a little more reason to hang in here a little longer, without feeling too guilty. ;)

You being a Marine, might like this short story, about one of my best buddies since puberty. I joined the army in 1972, my buddy said he'll join too, but later, and we'll meet up in Germany, so later he went downtown to enlist, the army recruiter's office was full, the Marine recruiter's office was empty, so he went in for a chat, a four year chat with the USMC! :lol:

Staying on the subject of Marines and reenacting, some of my Swiss buddies did a USMC reenactment of Tarawa, also in here in the Forum somewhere, asked me if I'd like to join in, I said sure, but only as a civilian War Photogragher, I can still imagine hearing my ol' Marine buddy jumping in my dufflebag for wearing a USMC uniform, there are just some things you don't do! :w00t:

Great story. :thumbsup:

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I have been reenacting since 1979. Started out in the LAH in N.C., when I was at Ft. Bragg, and remember going to an event wearing all original gear, save for the boots and uniform! Yeah, I cringe now... Got into Rev War in 1981, and did alot of 18th Century events for years. In the 90s I started doing the 508th PIR, and was one of 2 to 10 US Abn reenactors in the South until Saving Pvt Ryan and then B.O.Bs allowed about 5 zillion 506th reenactors to materialize. eh Over the last 10 years I've been doing CW and WWII with my sons, and changed back over to German, doing the 6th SS Gebirgsjaeger Div (German/Swedish, and several Mountain warfare schools made it an easy choice). In all of m years doing this I have not worn rank higher than what I was in the Army.....there are more than enough Walter Mittys out there to wear all the rank that they never earned to suit me. The groups I have been with generally consisted of prior service types, and we would just disappear into the woods and do our thing, which made the REMFs happy, so they can ride up and down the trails in their jeeps and such.

...ever notice that the greater the girth, the higher the rank....they usually own most of the vehicles too...Colonels driving M-8s....:-D I should not laugh too hard as I have been working myself down from size 42s! I like the fact that I can out walk and hump a ruck longer than most of the younger guys out on the reenacting field...unless they have just come from BUDS, SFAS, or Parris Island!

I also, like others have mentioned here, have not worn decorations higher than I earned, and on the US side, most are compatible with WWII era awards. Same on the German side, there are easy equivalents. My boys have earned some badges from years of participation, and the better units have requirements established that keeps self-adorned Audie Murphys from showing up. I have a great time doing it, and as stated by another earlier post, we are all just "playing Army" !

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Hey SOT, well said, I'm only in it for the fun too. No way could I wear a ww-2 uniform and pretend I'm a combat trooper. I'll settle to be a ww-1 "retread", a HQ stallion from Battalion. Couple guys are trying to talk me into doing the Civil War, not bad for an old man impression, sounds good, but where does it stop?

You wouldn't/couldn't believe all the heroes I've seen over here in Europe, rank and combat decorations, spend alot of time and money on thier US ww-2 uniforms, some looking pretty darn sharp, but when I go to talk to them, some can't even speak three words of english. I personally have no problem with it, live and let live.

I'm adding the photos of Christian Nelson 58 years old, and Harry Rudolph 66 years young just one more time, the old troopers who influenced me not to hang up my pistol belt, not yet. :salute:

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Jeez....I'm 58 but he looks like my grandfather!! :w00t:

 

The smokes will do that to a person.

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Just thought I would add this picture. This soldier was in the same division as my Grandpa, 38th infantry division in the pacific. The picture comes from the division's book put out after the war.

 

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The caption reads:

"Paul Grimes, our oldest and proudest doughfoot, raised the first American flag on the site of the reconquered Naval Base."

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Just thought I would add this picture. This soldier was in the same division as my Grandpa, 38th infantry division in the pacific. The picture comes from the division's book put out after the war.

 

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The caption reads:

"Paul Grimes, our oldest and proudest doughfoot, raised the first American flag on the site of the reconquered Naval Base."

 

Got any more info on him? Age etc? Google doesnt help much. Would be nice to know more about him.

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Got any more info on him? Age etc? Google doesnt help much. Would be nice to know more about him.

 

In the back of the book it does list all the names of the guys in the division so I could find out what company he was with but as far as age goes I don't know.

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In the back of the book it does list all the names of the guys in the division so I could find out what company he was with but as far as age goes I don't know.

 

Sounds good. I might be able to use that info to find something on NARA.

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I kitted up as a LRRP last year at the ripe old age of 16. With face paint on and Xm177E2, 8 grenades, ka-bar and .45 ready no one said anything.

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