MikeK Posted October 3, 2011 Share #26 Posted October 3, 2011 Angus & Coote Probably not the thread for it, but that example does not have the reverse features I associate with original A&C wings. Regards Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAA Posted October 3, 2011 Share #27 Posted October 3, 2011 What specifically bothers you? The "Angus & Coote" debate has been a big topic in the past. Dave Probably not the thread for it, but that example does not have the reverse features I associate with original A&C wings. Regards Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfrost Posted October 3, 2011 Share #28 Posted October 3, 2011 What specifically bothers you? The "Angus & Coote" debate has been a big topic in the past. DaveProbably not the thread for it, but that example does not have the reverse features I associate with original A&C wings. Regards Mike There is a characteristic flaw (at least in the pilot wings) that can help differentiate between the old and new Angus & Coote wings. Here is a link to an interesting conversation about the A&C service pilot wing with a repop and a vintage wing side by side. The conversation gets a bit ugly towards the end, but I think the consensus is clear. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...;hl=a&C Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAA Posted October 3, 2011 Share #29 Posted October 3, 2011 There is a characteristic flaw (at least in the pilot wings) that can help differentiate between the old and new Angus & Coote wings. I can't recall if that also extends to the L, G, and S wings by this company, but I think it may. Patrick What is this characteristic flaw? Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfrost Posted October 3, 2011 Share #30 Posted October 3, 2011 What is this characteristic flaw? Dave I think if you check out the thread I linked to, you can find it. Its on the back of the wing. Sadly, I know for sure its not found in the A&C air crew wings and I don't know about any of the other ratings. However, it does seem to be characteristic for the pilot series. I am hesitant to broadcast what that difference is as I assume the next wave of fakes will have corrected that problem to some extent. Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAA Posted October 3, 2011 Share #31 Posted October 3, 2011 I think if you check out the thread I linked to, you can find it. Its on the back of the wing. Sadly, I know for sure its not found in the A&C air crew wings and I don't know about any of the other ratings. However, it does seem to be characteristic for the pilot series. I am hesitant to broadcast what that difference is as I assume the next wave of fakes will have corrected that problem to some extent. Patrick Understood ~ I will review that thread again, as I do not recall reading that information myself - always good to cover all the bases. This particular wing checked out in all the ways I am familiar with in determining a period original Coote vs. the noted repros. It checked out in size, weight, pin, hozzle, hallmark, and (honest) age wear, but I'll take another look. The Coote repros I have run into have been quickly detectable (for me) and have a few differences from this particular piece. Thanks for your comments ~ Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinman Posted October 4, 2011 Share #32 Posted October 4, 2011 Looking at the Pasquale Flight Nurse (not), I checked out the link from John Cooper to the *************** Gallery. I was dismayed to see they make a repro of the Juarez Liaison. I had to jump through a lot of hoops to get the wing that I have long before the internet. Anyway, I’m posting larger pics for better detail. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinman Posted October 4, 2011 Share #33 Posted October 4, 2011 Back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S McKibben Posted November 24, 2011 Share #34 Posted November 24, 2011 Heres Mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cooper Posted November 24, 2011 Author Share #35 Posted November 24, 2011 Thanks for posting yet another example I think we have a great selection of makers that anyone in need of a reference would be hard pressed to find any other place with the exception of Bob's site. Cheers John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miken Posted November 25, 2011 Share #36 Posted November 25, 2011 My Wings AE CO. UTICA NY. Sterling Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cooper Posted November 27, 2011 Author Share #37 Posted November 27, 2011 NIce AECo! It looks like the posted have been removed at some point but I am not sure what the other two parts are? Cheers John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miken Posted November 27, 2011 Share #38 Posted November 27, 2011 They were on the posts to attach to the uniform but broke off. I've never seen this type before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cooper Posted November 28, 2011 Author Share #39 Posted November 28, 2011 Did the scre on..? Odd since it would have not be very comfortable. Cheers John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardheaded Posted November 15, 2015 Share #40 Posted November 15, 2015 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johan Willaert Posted November 18, 2015 Share #41 Posted November 18, 2015 Bracelet made with shirt size wing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustywings Posted November 18, 2015 Share #42 Posted November 18, 2015 . Hello Hardheaded, I believe the Meyer style Liaison Pilot wing you posted above is a more recent Meyer restrike. Your illustration is missing a number of details which I would expect to see with a WWII era Meyer made badge: 1. The "STERLING" mark is too large. Meyer did use a variety of STERLING marks over the years, but with their original Liaison, Glider & Service Pilot badges, they used a much smaller stamp. 2. It doesn't appear your illustration has a cam-stop style pin on the reverse to prevent it from swinging open more than 45 degrees or so. 3. I don't see the two small raised "speed-bump" protrusions on the reverse which Meyer included to help mark where the pin and catch should be applied. (I've not seen a Meyer restrike which included these small but distinctive marks.) The various waves of Meyer restrikes and repros infiltrating our hobby over the past thirty years has soured many a collector. (I have a couple of these stinkers tucked away as well.) But also know there are still beautiful authentic Meyer examples out there waiting to be sought and found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustywings Posted November 18, 2015 Share #43 Posted November 18, 2015 Here's a couple of close-up images of an authentic WWII era Meyer-made Liaison Pilot. Note the size of the "STERLING" mark; the pin-cam block; and the two speed-bump looking protrusions just inside where the pin and catch are attached to the wing itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardheaded Posted November 19, 2015 Share #44 Posted November 19, 2015 Here's a couple of close-up images of an authentic WWII era Meyer-made Liaison Pilot. Note the size of the "STERLING" mark; the pin-cam block; and the two speed-bump looking protrusions just inside where the pin and catch are attached to the wing itself. Thank You Very Much! rustywings. I really appreciate the lesson learned!!! I'll be taking these back as they are guaranteed WW2. Fortunately I have a no hassel return HH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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