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Hi guys here's another set of wings i got at the same time as the Glider wings.I thought they may be of interest to wing collectors as i have not seen a set of Service Pilot wings in the Juarez style before and assume they must be quite scarce.

Steve.

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Hi Steve,

 

These look awesome, I am so jealous! :jeal0001: I believe you are correct that the Service pilot is one of the more difficult pieces to find in the "Juarez" wing pattern. I need that as well as a Glider to complete my "Juarez" examples. Congratulations on a great addition to your wing collection!

 

Thank you for sharing,

 

Joe

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Hi Joe,just a strange coincidence but the only other Juarez wing i have is is the Glider Pilot.It was the very first wing i bought when i started collecting airborne jump and glider qualified wings about a year ago.I will post a pic tomorrow when i can take a decent pic in daylight.

Steve.

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Hi Joe,just a strange coincidence but the only other Juarez wing i have is is the Glider Pilot.It was the very first wing i bought when i started collecting airborne jump and glider qualified wings about a year ago.I will post a pic tomorrow when i can take a decent pic in daylight.

Steve.

 

Hi Steve!

 

That's great, I'd love to see a Glider close up!

 

Here are a few of my examples, top 2 are sterling marked and bottom 3 are coin silver.

 

Best wishes!

 

Joe

 

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nice guys--- i love those wings!!!!!!!!!!

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nice guys--- i love those wings!!!!!!!!!!

 

Hi Costa,

 

I know what you mean, they're really distinctive and I like the fact they tend to be slightly larger at 3.25 inches across. They've always been a favorite pattern of mine.

 

Best wishes,

 

Joe

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Hello: I really love these wings. I have some 100 plus wings in my collection but the “Juarez” have to be my favorites. I break down my Juarez wings into two collector metal content categories: “Sterling Silver” and “Coin Silver.” Here is my current collection of Juarez Wings. post-242046-0-19640400-1575523273_thumb.jpegpost-242046-0-64208200-1575523439_thumb.jpeg

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The back of the Service Pilot wing in the last post is interesting. I don't recall seeing any other Lampl/Juarez wings with a back like this one. Does it look like the top and bottom edges of the center shield were ground away for some reason, or was it stamped this way? It reminds me of the backs of some Beverlycraft wings.

 

Make sure all of you Lampl/Juarez wings are a full 3.25" wide, or not much more than a hair under. JoeW makes copies of all these and others may as well. Copies can be 1/8" too narrow. Also on the letter wings, the letters are all separate pieces that were attached to the base wings. Using a loop you should be able to tell this on real wings. The fakes have all been cast as one-piece wings. At least some of the fake bombardier wings are also cast this way. It should be clear that the bombs have been attached.

 

Other varieties that are out there are Observer, Aerial Gunner, Flight Surgeon and Flight Engineer. JoeW also makes fake Navigator wings, but no one I have ever spoken with that collects wings owns or has ever even seen a genuine full-size Lampl/Juarez Navigator wing. There are 1-3/8" (cap sized) wings out there with Lampl hallmarks, but I don't know of any such Navigator wings that have the Lampl hallmark.

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post-242046-0-06468000-1576814252_thumb.jpegThanks so very much for the helpful information. I’ll get my calipers out and measure them all for the correct length. I recently bought a genuine Observer Wing in Sterling Silver with the Lampl stamp . The “S” Service Wing was listed as “Juarez Style” so I assumed it to be just that. It at the very least makes for good conversation. Compared with all the others on the reverse it does seem out of the ordinary. The one Bombardier Wing with the solid back appears to have rivets holding the bomb onto the wing from the front. Here’s the latest photo:

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Lampl (or whoever made the wings for Lampl) made the Glider Pilot wings using both standard pilot wings and the prescribed "Venetian Blind" background wings using the same G. I don't recall seeing any Lampl Liaison or Service Pilot wings where the standard pilot wing was used along with Lampl's standard L or S. This wing definitely looks like some other jeweler applied the L.

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So the navigator is rare enough to be unfound yet, Marty? Good to know.

My sense is the gunner is relatively harder to find.

And that Service pilot is pretty rare!

Are there any examples found of senior or command pilots in this pattern?

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I'm not saying they don't exist, but I've never encountered a Senior Pilot or Command Pilot wing in Juarez/Lampl pattern. The rating I've found to be very illusive is the Navigator wing. I've seen a couple of examples in the distant past, but they were either too expensive or damaged to pursue... so I'm still searching.

 

Here's a couple of pixs of a Juarez pattern Aerial Gunner badge and an unauthorized Flight Engineer badge, which was likely a jeweler-made private order using an original coin silver Observer's wing for its base. Note both of these badges are missing their swivels which was an apparent inherent problem with this type of catch...

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Hello again... several days ago I managed to snag a pair of Juarez Glider Pilot wings in Sterling Silver which were missing from my collection. Thanks to a knowledgeable member I now have more knowledge about the Lampl Juarez wings. This exchange is what makes collecting so enjoyable. Honestly, I never noticed that many of the Juarez design wings had an upside down “g” in the hallmark “Sterling” and that some of them have a right side up letter. You learn something new every daypost-242046-0-04110600-1577556266_thumb.jpegpost-242046-0-56818900-1577556319_thumb.jpeg. Here’s wishing each and every member a joyous and Happy New Year!

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Hello Again..... since the last posting I have added additional “Juarez” wings to my specialized collection including a Liaison Pilot wing and a WASP Wing from the 318th Training W 7 Class. In the Sterling Silver category I have been trying to collect both the correct “g” and the inverted “g” examples.

 

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