Jack's Son Posted August 30, 2011 Author Share #26 Posted August 30, 2011 This is a list of the names and numbers I have so far. Cliff was kind enough to give me these names, and other help. Naval Aviator Number/ Name 2510 Philip David Fancher 2787 Paul Foxworthy 2388 Paul J. Frizzell 751 Paul Erhard Froass 250 Philip Bernard Frothingham 131 Percival Strong Fuller Naval Aviator Number/ Name 2534 Paul C. Albritton 721 Philip Allen, Jr. 1234 Paul Arthur Androus 2618 Paul L. Armstrong 2805 Prentice D. Ash 641 Perry D. Astry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchcollector Posted August 30, 2011 Share #27 Posted August 30, 2011 PLT=Platoon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack's Son Posted September 1, 2011 Author Share #28 Posted September 1, 2011 I would like to thank everyone who helped out on this thread. Although I still have not found the answer, I will continue to look and ask for help. Perhaps someone will help find the origonal owner! :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Hudson Posted September 1, 2011 Share #29 Posted September 1, 2011 I would say that is the day he earned those wings.. 1/2/23. I got to see these wings in person today and I agree with your theory Mike. And I'd say his initials were PH and it was dated Feb. 1923. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffP Posted September 1, 2011 Share #30 Posted September 1, 2011 I got to see these wings in person today and I agree with your theory Mike. And I'd say his initials were PH and it was dated Feb. 1923. To avoid the possibility of any repetition, please note that last weekend we checked the Appendix of Naval Aviator Numbers found on page 171 of the Willis & Carmichael book United States Navy Wings of Gold... and were not able to find a match for an aviatior with initials PH who graduated from flight school in 1923. Cliff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 1, 2011 Share #31 Posted September 1, 2011 Honestly, it looks more like a "33" to me than a "23". You can see how the top of the "2" is poorly curved in the middle number, and how the "3" of the last number is almost straight. Look at the second to last number, and you'll see the same straight lines, with the bottom "slash" being the last line of the "3". Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teufelhunde.ret Posted September 1, 2011 Share #32 Posted September 1, 2011 After looking very closely at this once again, I think the scratch has obsecured a number "7" - not a "1" which would maker this #788. Have drawn a line grey line thru the scratch in this pic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teufelhunde.ret Posted September 1, 2011 Share #33 Posted September 1, 2011 Here is the same pic (copy) with grey line pulled thru the "7". The sratch is atop the seven. Have some zerox pages of Contact and 788 is not "P.H." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KASTAUFFER Posted September 1, 2011 Share #34 Posted September 1, 2011 I think these are a wonderful pair of wings, but unfortunately what is engraved on them will always be open to speculation and no definitive, concrete, absolute, attribution I feel can ever be made. That being said, I would gladly have a pair like these in my collection. Kurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CliffP Posted September 1, 2011 Share #35 Posted September 1, 2011 I think these are a wonderful pair of wings, but unfortunately what is engraved on them will always be open to speculation and no definitive, concrete, absolute, attribution I feel can ever be made. That being said, I would gladly have a pair like these in my collection. Kurt May I second that? :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horsa Posted September 1, 2011 Share #36 Posted September 1, 2011 OH, my friend.......there is some logic in your guesses.Unfortunitly, this wing is from WWI !! A naval aviator trained in the 20s could have still flown in WW2, and likely would have kept his first set of wings. I was doing some reading lately and was amazed at the age of some aviators in WW2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horsa Posted September 1, 2011 Share #37 Posted September 1, 2011 Maybe do a negative in photoshop or similar program and see what you get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack's Son Posted September 1, 2011 Author Share #38 Posted September 1, 2011 I am very happy to have come by these wings, and they are definitely a fine addition to my WWI wings. Kurt has said it last, and probably best....."unfortunately what is engraved on them will always be open to speculation and no definitive, concrete, absolute, attribution I feel can ever be made. That being said, I would gladly have a pair like these in my collection". More then having the wings, is the appreciation for the GREAT SUPPORT and HELP all of you have offered in trying to solve the unsolvable. My deep thanks to all ! R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack's Son Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share #39 Posted September 22, 2011 New Information...... I got a lead from the shop owner in Nebraska, and with the help of Cliff P. we found the wing owner! "I finally got a follow-up response to my inquiry on the "B.B. & B" wing ~ states it came from the estate of H.C. Hammond from Grinnell, Iowa." Cliff's reply...... Harold Child Hammond, Naval Aviator #1694 Navy Serial 47218 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack's Son Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share #40 Posted September 22, 2011 .......I suspect you are better off going through all the aviators whose initials are "PH". Patrick.........PH it is!! See my new post below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted September 23, 2011 Share #41 Posted September 23, 2011 Just read this thread for the first time....fascinating!! A mystery inside an enigma. You guys have impressed me with your thinking "outside the box" in order to ID the original recipient of this wing. JS have you ever considered a career with the FBI? Keep us up to speed. Ian :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack's Son Posted September 23, 2011 Author Share #42 Posted September 23, 2011 Thanks Ian, I just added the guy's name, so I'm hoping the guys will me with the number mystery. Maybe it will make more sense now. ( To somebody) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Cooper Posted September 26, 2011 Share #43 Posted September 26, 2011 Just catching up - so glad to see the ID and the fact that several members assisted. Great team work all - keep it up! Cheers John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack's Son Posted September 26, 2011 Author Share #44 Posted September 26, 2011 .......... Great team work all - keep it up!Cheers John John, I'm working on getting some sort of paperwork from the shopkeeper to authenticate the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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