m1a2u2 Posted March 4, 2019 Share #101 Posted March 4, 2019 Do I have a Real TAP ETO chin strap here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kammo-man Posted March 4, 2019 Share #102 Posted March 4, 2019 Thats french cloth. G nicelid. o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juodonnell2012 Posted March 4, 2019 Share #103 Posted March 4, 2019 It is almost certainly a fake. The yokes look identical to a run my friend made years ago out of original French materials. The liner also appears to be a P55 type made with olive green canvas webbing which the French never received, all of their liners were of ww2 surplus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1a2u2 Posted March 4, 2019 Share #104 Posted March 4, 2019 It is almost certainly a fake. The yokes look identical to a run my friend made years ago out of original French materials. The liner also appears to be a P55 type made with olive green canvas webbing which the French never received, all of their liners were of ww2 surplus.I'll take some more pics but the liner suspension is tan, just darkened. Also, see the M1C snap on the liner? What is the difference between mine and the one the other person posted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juodonnell2012 Posted March 4, 2019 Share #105 Posted March 4, 2019 The weave of the liner should be HBT not the canvas type pictured, even the French webbing was HBT, looks like someone took a very salty p55 airborne liner with the factory yokes removed and added the indochina yokes. The m1c snap also looks like it was made from a p55 liner. The French never received such liners, as they were produced too late for indochina. Even if it was a rewebbed one by the French the webbing would still have the French HBT webbing. Also the band appears to be a one made from NOS 60s or 70s material, all examples I have seen that still had the band were ww2 surplus m44 bands which have a horizontal weave to them. It looks liked it is a very good fake, but there are some issues with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juodonnell2012 Posted March 4, 2019 Share #106 Posted March 4, 2019 Also, for the French market these are the most heavily faked helmets out there from this period. For collectors of French indochina, the Troupes Aeroportees Extreme Orient modified helmets are like M2 D bail helmets. Finding an original one is like finding the holy grail, unfortunately the market is flooded with so many good fakes out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1a2u2 Posted March 4, 2019 Share #107 Posted March 4, 2019 Do you have a picture of what the material on a real liner should look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1a2u2 Posted March 4, 2019 Share #108 Posted March 4, 2019 Also, can you please tell me why the previously shared liner is different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juodonnell2012 Posted March 4, 2019 Share #109 Posted March 4, 2019 The previously shared liner has thicker woven off white materials, the base is a ww2 U.S surplus liner with hbt weave webbing and front eyelet. Multiple zig zag reinforcements on the kidney shaped yoke. French parkerized/chemical washed A washers attaching the field expedient yoke.Although there is some variety of different manufactured yokes all of the different varieties (3 I believe) were manufactured in just a very few tailor shops and conform to eachother, much like the original one posted. If you take your liner out is there a front eyelet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1a2u2 Posted March 4, 2019 Share #110 Posted March 4, 2019 The previously shared liner has thicker woven off white materials, the base is a ww2 U.S surplus liner with hbt weave webbing and front eyelet. Multiple zig zag reinforcements on the kidney shaped yoke. French parkerized/chemical washed A washers attaching the field expedient yoke.Although there is some variety of different manufactured yokes all of the different varieties (3 I believe) were manufactured in just a very few tailor shops and conform to eachother, much like the original one posted. If you take your liner out is there a front eyelet? Yes there's definitely a front eyelet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1a2u2 Posted March 6, 2019 Share #111 Posted March 6, 2019 The French never received such liners, as they were produced too late for indochina. Even if it was a rewebbed one by the French the webbing would still have the French HBT webbing. Also, is there any information to back this up? Not trying to challenge your assessment just hungry for info on these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted March 6, 2019 Share #112 Posted March 6, 2019 Also, is there any information to back this up? Not trying to challenge your assessment just hungry for info on these. Liners with OD #7 cotton suspension weren't even made yet by the time that conflict ended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1a2u2 Posted March 6, 2019 Share #113 Posted March 6, 2019 Liners with OD #7 cotton suspension weren't even made yet by the time that conflict ended. What color suspension did the US use in Korea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doyler Posted March 6, 2019 Share #114 Posted March 6, 2019 Here is a CAPAC liner http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/311314-korean-war-era-unpainted-berely-used-capac-liner/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted March 6, 2019 Share #115 Posted March 6, 2019 What color suspension did the US use in Korea? OD#7 but in HBT. Not cotton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrei Posted August 5, 2019 Author Share #116 Posted August 5, 2019 After the visit of general de Lattre to the USA, the MDAP started to supply the CEFEO and post WW2 M1 helmets were sent to Indochina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m1a2u2 Posted August 8, 2019 Share #117 Posted August 8, 2019 After the visit of general de Lattre to the USA, the MDAP started to supply the CEFEO and post WW2 M1 helmets were sent to Indochina. What year was that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Camouflage Pattern I Posted August 8, 2019 Share #118 Posted August 8, 2019 I have seen pictures of post WW2 M1s in Indochine in 1952 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrei Posted August 8, 2019 Author Share #119 Posted August 8, 2019 What year was that? 1951 IIRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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