Jack's Son Posted July 26, 2011 Share #26 Posted July 26, 2011 My only point is that there needs to be rational discussion about the matter and not let people create a cult around an inanimate object based on unreasonable arguments and ideas. Brian, Unfortunately, there are some topics that transcend rational thinking and reason. After all, look where the SVA came from!! All kidding aside.....this topic is an 'emotional" one, therefore logic has no place in it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share #27 Posted July 26, 2011 Boy...I've stirred up a hornet's nest here!! Ian :w00t: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigJohn#3RD Posted July 26, 2011 Share #28 Posted July 26, 2011 JS, Truer words have not been spoken; I agree let's move on as we're down to bare bone on this horse and they is turning to dust when it comes to this subject. But..... John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack's Son Posted July 26, 2011 Share #29 Posted July 26, 2011 Boy...I've stirred up a hornet's nest here!! Ian :w00t: AND........You love it!! :w00t: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OD MAN Posted July 26, 2011 Share #30 Posted July 26, 2011 As well as the soldiers who sacrificed so much...... That is what I said. The Congressional Medal of Honor Society are the recipients of the MOH. Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share #31 Posted July 26, 2011 AND........You love it!! :w00t: No comment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 26, 2011 Share #32 Posted July 26, 2011 That is what I said. The Congressional Medal of Honor Society are the recipients of the MOH. Justin The Board of Directors, yes. Members of the CMOS Foundation...MOH not required. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OD MAN Posted July 26, 2011 Share #33 Posted July 26, 2011 The Board of Directors, yes. Members of the CMOS Foundation...MOH not required. Dave It was my understanding that a recipient of the MOH would then be a member of the society. Justin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadian bacon Posted July 26, 2011 Share #34 Posted July 26, 2011 just wanted to say wow thats a beauty it is nice to see an air force one (my personal favorite design) thanks for sharing this with us Ian Michael Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share #35 Posted July 26, 2011 just wanted to say wow thats a beauty it is nice to see an air force one (my personal favorite design) thanks for sharing this with us Ian Michael You're welcome Michael! Ian :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 26, 2011 Share #36 Posted July 26, 2011 It was my understanding that a recipient of the MOH would then be a member of the society.Justin Sure, if you get a MOH, you become part of the Society. However, MOH recipients numbers are declining rapidly. In order to stay afloat, they have the Foundation that non-MOH recipients can join. Most of these folks are good people who really have everyone's best interest in mind. However, there are a number of them that are the MOH recipient "worshippers" and they are the ones who believe no one should even have the RIGHT to own a MOH (or colored likeness thereof) unless they are a recipient or immediate family. It's ironic that these people "worship" people who sacrificed a great deal (many, their lives) for the VERY freedoms that allow collectors like us to own MOH-related items if we want to...but they refuse to see it that way...they want you to own what THEY want you to own (or not own in this case). Doesn't sound like a free society to me... Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 26, 2011 Share #37 Posted July 26, 2011 Just read my above reply...geeze...I AM beating the dead horse! Make it STOPPPPPP!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEABEEBRIAN Posted July 26, 2011 Share #38 Posted July 26, 2011 Sure, if you get a MOH, you become part of the Society. However, MOH recipients numbers are declining rapidly. In order to stay afloat, they have the Foundation that non-MOH recipients can join. Most of these folks are good people who really have everyone's best interest in mind. However, there are a number of them that are the MOH recipient "worshippers" and they are the ones who believe no one should even have the RIGHT to own a MOH (or colored likeness thereof) unless they are a recipient or immediate family. It's ironic that these people "worship" people who sacrificed a great deal (many, their lives) for the VERY freedoms that allow collectors like us to own MOH-related items if we want to...but they refuse to see it that way...they want you to own what THEY want you to own (or not own in this case). Doesn't sound like a free society to me... Dave Well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach Posted August 30, 2011 Share #39 Posted August 30, 2011 I did not want to start a new thread. However of intrest to this one is this vendor close to me (anything under 1000 miles in this country is close ) http://www.quarterdeckmilitaria.com.au/products.php?cID=16 Personaly I do not like replicas but his selection is intresting even Civil War MoH's. Also in regards to VC's, a WW2 Australian Victoria Cross recently sold for over $1 million AUD, thats about $1 million USD. It was the first Aussie WW2 VC on the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlaterDoc Posted August 30, 2011 Share #40 Posted August 30, 2011 Sorry, but I have to give that poor dead animal just one more little kick! :w00t: Could it be, and I am only surmising here, that maybe we should have a few things in this world have have a little reverence afforded them? Maybe it is a good idea in this particular case to not allow a $ figure to ever be attached to something that holds such importance both in sacrifice and heroism! The actions of the select number of recipients reflect the highest level of dedication and devotion that we would(or should) all aspire to! Replicas are one thing. But, the real thing is the representation of a man's life, service, sacrifice and actions above and beyond. It is in a way like trying to attach a $ value to the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution! The presence of a "why can't I buy one" :crybaby: opinion, indicates that too many have not learned enough history or appreciate enough what that "symbol" represents! If you ask a MOH recipient what the medal means to him, I'll bet he'll say something like "the lives and the blood shed of my brothers in arms" or "it is a remembrance of my buddies that died next to me"! Try and put a "flea market value" on that! OK, I feel better now! Sorry Dave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadian bacon Posted August 30, 2011 Share #41 Posted August 30, 2011 okay i have to ask why does he say that the tiffany cross version doesnt fall under the sva ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabrejet Posted August 30, 2011 Author Share #42 Posted August 30, 2011 eBay # 350486603261 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emccomas Posted August 30, 2011 Share #43 Posted August 30, 2011 eBay # 350486603261 OK, sorry for the dead horse, but shouldn't this thing be hallmarked to be original. Am I missing something here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobgee Posted August 30, 2011 Share #44 Posted August 30, 2011 OK, sorry for the dead horse, but shouldn't this thing be hallmarked to be original. Am I missing something here? Not all Original, Government-manufactured MOHs are hallmarked. Since the "Dead Horse" is still quivering......the referenced Australian EBay seller has an interesting review of MOHs offerred for sale around the globe. Mostly accurate. Good info. Bobgee http://reviews.ebay.com.au/FAKE-COPIES-OF-...000000010642993 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuftStalg1 Posted August 30, 2011 Share #45 Posted August 30, 2011 okay i have to ask why does he say that the tiffany cross version doesnt fall under the sva ? Good question, I would like to hear the answer too if anyone has it? :think: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach Posted August 30, 2011 Share #46 Posted August 30, 2011 The ebay vendor over priced it. I have seen "original" unnamed, cased ones for about $1500 Aud here localy. From memory I was told also that there are 2 original Vietnam named MoH's in Australia, one in the War Memorial and another in private hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emccomas Posted August 30, 2011 Share #47 Posted August 30, 2011 okay i have to ask why does he say that the tiffany cross version doesnt fall under the sva ? From the Quarterdeckmilitaria web site: 1917 NAVAL MEDAL OF HONOR TIFFANY STYLE, AVAILABLE TO USA CUSTOMERS AS THESE TYPE DO NOT COME UNDER THE STOLEN VALOR ACT. I sent them an email asking what authority / regulation / information that had that justified this statement. Stay tuned.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack's Son Posted August 30, 2011 Share #48 Posted August 30, 2011 Bob, That is a very good article, worth reading!~ :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevenL Posted August 31, 2011 Share #49 Posted August 31, 2011 The worst part about this to me is that they couldn't even spell the name of the medal correctly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cutiger83 Posted August 31, 2011 Share #50 Posted August 31, 2011 The worst part about this to me is that they couldn't even spell the name of the medal correctly... If you are talking about the "U" being in the word "honor", that is the British way of spelling the word. This picture was taken at a British show. ....Kat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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