Brig Posted June 4, 2011 Share #1 Posted June 4, 2011 Posting this for an associate. He has the other board, but it is missing the emblem. Another beautiful example as discussed here: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...showtopic=11607 I dare not remove the emblem, as 2 pins appear to be broken, but you can see it is hollow backed and very finely crafted... An image of the box... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted June 4, 2011 Author Share #2 Posted June 4, 2011 another view of the box... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted June 4, 2011 Author Share #3 Posted June 4, 2011 the pad in the top lid is loose, so I figured I'd take the chance to show you how the pads were constructed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted June 4, 2011 Author Share #4 Posted June 4, 2011 inside the box... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted June 4, 2011 Author Share #5 Posted June 4, 2011 without the board... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted June 4, 2011 Author Share #6 Posted June 4, 2011 the lid of the stand removed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted June 4, 2011 Author Share #7 Posted June 4, 2011 the beautiful board in all its glory... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted June 4, 2011 Author Share #8 Posted June 4, 2011 the underside of the board, a Horstmann piece designated for the right shoulder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted June 4, 2011 Author Share #9 Posted June 4, 2011 the emblem and bullion rank insignia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted June 4, 2011 Author Share #10 Posted June 4, 2011 the crown jewel of the piece... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted June 4, 2011 Author Share #11 Posted June 4, 2011 side view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted June 4, 2011 Author Share #12 Posted June 4, 2011 close-up of the eagle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted June 4, 2011 Author Share #13 Posted June 4, 2011 Last images...Reverse of the button and the screw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normaninvasion Posted June 5, 2011 Share #14 Posted June 5, 2011 Now that is impressive! Great condition. Would Horstman provide the ega or was it typically purchased seperate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teufelhunde.ret Posted June 5, 2011 Share #15 Posted June 5, 2011 Now that is impressive! Great condition. Would Horstman provide the ega or was it typically purchased seperate? Good question, as we often refer to the emblems of the era as Jeweler made. This one is nearly identical to many others that have appeared here. Begs the question did Horstmann have a Jeweler on staff for such items or did they sub-out this type of work? In any case a wonderful example and thx for the post Brig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobgee Posted June 5, 2011 Share #16 Posted June 5, 2011 Brig - Great pics & post. Lovely jeweler-quality bird....I'm thinking 1880s.......Maybe earlier. Perhaps the "Horstmann Bros & Allen New York" logo might pinpoint a date as "Horstmann" is most often associated with Philadelphia. Semper Fi....Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmcaviator Posted June 6, 2011 Share #17 Posted June 6, 2011 I believe that Horstmann mark goes back to the 1860's. It also looks like there are holes where the hunting horn insignia once was. If this Marine was a Captain, say in the 1880's, he could have easily been commissioned during the Civil War up to 1868 when the horn was in use. I bought a set from Williams Relics in the box that was missing the hunting horns with the same mark. Believe that EGA to be made by Breuniger, all hand done, which leads all of these early pieces to be one of a kind, and nearly impossible to match. I bought a similar set from Bob (Forum Support) that I think the funds went to buy him a new car! S/F, Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted June 6, 2011 Author Share #18 Posted June 6, 2011 I did find remnants of the lid having been named at one point. A few letters, maybe enough to match. Anyone have an officer register pre-Span-Am? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobgee Posted June 7, 2011 Share #19 Posted June 7, 2011 As we consider 19th century USMC Officer epaulettes, a review of the following to compare those shown with your post seems appropriate: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...nbush&st=20 Semper Fi.....Bobgee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmcaviator Posted June 7, 2011 Share #20 Posted June 7, 2011 I did find remnants of the lid having been named at one point. A few letters, maybe enough to match. Anyone have an officer register pre-Span-Am? Brig, I have 1870's and 1880's registers, let me know if I can help. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teufelhunde.ret Posted June 7, 2011 Share #21 Posted June 7, 2011 Anyone wishing to ID Continental Marine Corps Officers (1775-1785) or US Marine Corps Officers (1798-1900), The later having dates of entry, departure, promotions, dates of death, etc can find it here: http://www.history.navy.mil/books/callahan/reg-usmc.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brig Posted June 7, 2011 Author Share #22 Posted June 7, 2011 thanks guys, have received lots of messages with offers to help. Have a few possible names, going to have to reexamine it. There wasn't much to work with, but considering the low number of officers in those days, worth a peek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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