Justin Posted April 2, 2011 Share #1 Posted April 2, 2011 Can anyone show how to do this the proper way to attach to the upper of the rucksack frame? Do I need to buy a LW ruck shelf? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Victory Museum Posted April 2, 2011 Share #2 Posted April 2, 2011 You need the Metal Packboard (not to be confused with just a shelf) MIL-P-43756 The metal packboard was mounted on the Lightweight Rucksack frame and featured two cargo support shelves and four nylon cargo straps. The upper shelf was designed for carrying the PRC-10 or -25 or -77 radios. Depending on the model radio carried the bottom would either carry the battery (PRC-10) or a TSEC-KY-38 encryption device (PRC-77) on the lower support. Look at the first set of photos in this post (My PRC-10): http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...showtopic=86863 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted April 2, 2011 Author Share #3 Posted April 2, 2011 Sorry should have stated, its a PRC 25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted April 2, 2011 Author Share #4 Posted April 2, 2011 PS - super early war set up :thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_pickrall Posted April 2, 2011 Share #5 Posted April 2, 2011 http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ind...12287&st=10 Follow this link and look at post # 20. Good luck on finding one of these. Somewhere there is a thread done by New Romantic showing one of these in use. I didn't have time to search for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted April 2, 2011 Author Share #6 Posted April 2, 2011 Are you sure I need that for a PRC 25? Here's a picture of one on google I found. I also have 2 photos of them in country attached without the Metal Packboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKIPH Posted April 3, 2011 Share #7 Posted April 3, 2011 As I recall we carried the PRC-25's in the pack. There is a large pocket inside the pack that is designed to carry the radio. You just slid the cover so that the handset and antenna were exposed. We always moved the packs to the top of the frame, so you could get at your stuff. SKIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig_pickrall Posted April 3, 2011 Share #8 Posted April 3, 2011 Skip, are you sure it isn't the ALICE pack you are thinking of? That has the large radio pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USARV72 Posted April 3, 2011 Share #9 Posted April 3, 2011 Field Expedient methods, from S.S. book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USARV72 Posted April 3, 2011 Share #10 Posted April 3, 2011 Field Expedient methods, from S.S. book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11b inf Posted April 4, 2011 Share #11 Posted April 4, 2011 correct ,the radio pouch only in med. and large ALICE packs...LW rucksack only has main bag, lid pocket and three outer pockets..i'm pretty sure..vince g. 11B Infantry... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKIPH Posted April 4, 2011 Share #12 Posted April 4, 2011 Hey Guys- I don't have my LW Ruck anymore, and could be wrong about the pocket.(If someone has one please refresh my mind, been 38-40 years) Also there's less of a chance of it falling off the frame, those straps tend to stretch and loosen. Yes, they are definitely in the ALICE. Any way, radios were carried in the rucksack, for a few reasons. The RTO could carry the Accessory Bag, w/ long whip antenna (15'), on the pack. Also extra batteries, his chow water, and ammo. Another consideration is the RTO tends to be a target, keeping it in the pack lessens his exposure "slightly". There is a designated pack for the PRC 25 & 77, but I don't recall the nomenclature, if I can find it, I have a photo with one on my back. SKIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruciantime Posted April 4, 2011 Share #13 Posted April 4, 2011 Here's some info you might enjoy. look on the fifth heading down entitled - communications http://www.hardscrabblefarm.com/vn/ Also this site http://www.vietnamgear.com/kit.aspx?kit=47 Here's another place to do some reading http://vnlivinghistory.proboards.com/index.cgi Enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niner Alpha Posted April 6, 2011 Share #14 Posted April 6, 2011 I'll attach a photo I took in Vietnam. It shows a PRC25 attached to a frame with straps. A poncho liner is rolled up and covering the radio, although you can see a long wip antenna sticking up. Under the radio are hand flares in metal tubes and under the flares is a box that carries an extra radio battery. The same straps that hold the radio to the frame hold the box and flares. You will note a bag under the battery box. I think it was an old claymore bag and the bag held c rations and other odds and ends. Note that the canteens are attached to the frame by D rings. There is a pistol belt threaded through the hip flair of the frame to buckle up and hold the load steady when carrying. The photo was taken in the Delta of Vietnam in 1970. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share #15 Posted April 6, 2011 Thanks, great picture. I'm going to use the lower nylon straps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mower66 Posted April 8, 2011 Share #16 Posted April 8, 2011 Seems to be a lot going on there........buy the shelf/cheap/ then play with the upper cargo straps.......radio is secure........but rad ops were singled out so rads....as stated before....were hidden in packs.... buy the shelf and play with it.........thats what i had to do kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niner Alpha Posted April 9, 2011 Share #17 Posted April 9, 2011 ....but rad ops were singled out so rads....as stated before....were hidden in packs.... One shouldn't believe everything one reads Mower66. I was actually in Vietnam. I'll attach another photo. That's me on the left calling in a marking round for an LT that didn't know where he was. You can get a look at the other side of the radio in the photo as well. ......I guess rad ops is Brit for RTO......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mower66 Posted April 10, 2011 Share #18 Posted April 10, 2011 Rad Ops......RTO....correct....sorry, force of habit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niner Alpha Posted April 10, 2011 Share #19 Posted April 10, 2011 No problem Mower66. And maybe some outfits did hide their radios in packs, or seem to be hiding them because they had to hump so much stuff for long in the woods operations. The 101st in the Ashaw probably would have resembled that. It didn't happen that way in the 9th Division in the Delta. While I'm thinking about it.......if anybody is going to do re-enacting the part of a Vietnam RTO with a PRC 25......notice the handset in the last photo. It is covered in the plastic bag that covered the radio battery as factory packing material and the bag is held to the handset cord by rubber bands. The idea of the bag was to keep rain water out of the handset. If water got into it there would be all sorts of sqaws and sqeeks and the handset could be close to, or completely, useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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