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I wanted to get your opinion on this. I was told that this was brought back as a trophy from the Spanish American War and that the American soldier wrote his unit on the stock. Now I can believe the story except the rifle is a Remington Rolling block with what I believe is Dutch markings. There is paint marking the stock and I was wondering if anybody could help me possibly ID if this is a U.S. unit marking that the soldier would have put on it when he brought it home? The interesting part is that the rear sight is a trapdoor carbine rear sight.

Let me know what you guys think.

Thanks,

Kevin

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Looking for items relating to the 91st Infantry Division from WWI. Especially anything pertaining to the 364th Infantry Regiment.

Looking for First Army related items from WWI.

 

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Closer of the Butt stock.

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Kevin Braafladt

 

Looking for items relating to the 91st Infantry Division from WWI. Especially anything pertaining to the 364th Infantry Regiment.

Looking for First Army related items from WWI.

 

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That's a nice rifle, but to paraphrase John Nance Garner, I'd suggest that 'what I was told' is worth a pitcher of warm spit.

 

You asked 'what you guys think'--what this guy thinks is that the value the weapon shuld be determined by its condition, and the butt markings and the tale regarded as a bit of serepindity.

 

*Flashback to San Juan Hill--10th Cav trooper: "Sir, Ah just took this here Rolling Block away frum this Spanish Mofo"

LTC Roosevelt: "Bully! Give it to my dogrobber. He's got a stencil which will enhance its value!"

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What caliber is it, and can you post close ups of markings on barrel, receiver, and/or stock?

 

Semper Fi, Rob

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I do realize that a story is a story, and I really do not feel it changes the value of the gun at all because there is not any hard proof of the story but I was mainly asking if anyone recognized the markings on the butt of the rifle? The saying goes that unless you took it off of the dead Spaniard yourself that the story is what it is.

Thanks for your opinion.

 

That's a nice rifle, but to paraphrase John Nance Garner, I'd suggest that 'what I was told' is worth a pitcher of warm spit.

 

You asked 'what you guys think'--what this guy thinks is that the value the weapon shuld be determined by its condition, and the butt markings and the tale regarded as a bit of serepindity.

 

*Flashback to San Juan Hill--10th Cav trooper: "Sir, Ah just took this here Rolling Block away frum this Spanish Mofo"

LTC Roosevelt: "Bully! Give it to my dogrobber. He's got a stencil which will enhance its value!"


Kevin Braafladt

 

Looking for items relating to the 91st Infantry Division from WWI. Especially anything pertaining to the 364th Infantry Regiment.

Looking for First Army related items from WWI.

 

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I am sorry I forgot to post that it is 11mm.

 

 

What caliber is it, and can you post close ups of markings on barrel, receiver, and/or stock?

 

Semper Fi, Rob

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Kevin Braafladt

 

Looking for items relating to the 91st Infantry Division from WWI. Especially anything pertaining to the 364th Infantry Regiment.

Looking for First Army related items from WWI.

 

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I am sorry I forgot to post that it is 11mm.

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Looking for items relating to the 91st Infantry Division from WWI. Especially anything pertaining to the 364th Infantry Regiment.

Looking for First Army related items from WWI.

 

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There is paint marking the stock and I was wondering if anybody could help me possibly ID if this is a U.S. unit marking that the soldier would have put on it when he brought it home?

 

Hi Kevin:

 

I would interpret the markings as follows: 1st Squad, Company A, 1st Connecticut Volunteer Infantry.

 

I believe that the 1st Connecticut Infantry did indeed serve during the Span Am War but I will leave to you or others to find out if they were in a position to capture this type of rifle. I don't know much about foreign rifles of that era.

 

Hope that helps you. Good luck on your hunt.

 

Regards,

Charlie Flick


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The crown over RV marking is often found on older Spanish firearms and swords. It is believed to stand for "Reservado para los voluntarios" (Reserved for the Volunteers). The Volunteers were like our National Guard as opposed to the Spanish regular army. The crown RV marking was only used on weapon in Cuba. The problem, if I am not mistaken, is that the 1st. Conn. never left the US and saw no service in Cuba. I hope this helps. Bill

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This is out of my expertise, but what about Colorado Volunteer Infantry, who ended up serving in the Philippines?

 

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I would side with the 1st Connecticut. My experience in Collecting Colorado Volunteer Stuff, they like to mark thier stuff "1st Colo". It looks like a good Span-Am bring back to me. As long as the stenciling looks old and rightous I would pick it up. I think quite a few Remington Rolling blocks were brought back. If this was Colo marked I would be all over it. We're proud of our "COLO"rado Spanish name. I bet the Spaniards smirked when they first heard of the 1st Colorado.

 

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What about the 1st California Infantry? I just read that Connecticut didn't Participate. Is this located in California?

 

Terry


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Seeking Model 1895 and 1902 Named Officer coats as well as Spanish American War Tropical Uniforms.
Also pre WW2 marine uniforms. Always pre-1945 Colorado National Guard Items wanted! Also seeking Rhodesian

Uniforms and Gear used by Americans in the Rhodesian Security Forces during the Bush War (Africa).

 

Fortune cookie say: "An expert is someone that knows so much about so little."

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The First California saw service in the Philippines.


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Seeking Model 1895 and 1902 Named Officer coats as well as Spanish American War Tropical Uniforms.
Also pre WW2 marine uniforms. Always pre-1945 Colorado National Guard Items wanted! Also seeking Rhodesian

Uniforms and Gear used by Americans in the Rhodesian Security Forces during the Bush War (Africa).

 

Fortune cookie say: "An expert is someone that knows so much about so little."

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NO . EXPERT After the SAW did not Bannerman buy HUGE amounts of Spanish captured goods. Maybe an early mailorder

item He also had a number of small arms taken from the USS MAINE . He had so much ammo the City of N.Y. made him move it out of town to Bannermans Island up the Hudson

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I recall as a young lad seeing stacks of these old Rolling Block rifles at an Army-Navy Store in Atlanta. They were priced at $12.50 each. I believe they were in .43 Spanish caliber which is 11mm IIRC. I also know some were converted over to 45-70 and with a new barrel and made a nice shooter. Not sure what to make of the markings or the sight. Perhaps a put together??


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