1st Sgt CES Posted April 15, 2015 #126 Posted April 15, 2015 Hello --- does anyone know the time period of these Bullion Wings ? Any help would be great. Thanks Mark
rustywings Posted April 15, 2015 Author #127 Posted April 15, 2015 Those are beautiful Mark! I believe they were made and worn from the late 1920's thru the 1930's. Check out the pinned thread entitled "WWI to WWII USN Bullion Wings" for similar bullion examples:
1st Sgt CES Posted April 15, 2015 #128 Posted April 15, 2015 Hello --Thanks for the input on the wings. These are the best US Navy Wings I have. Found them on a visit to the kids---Blue Skies Mark
BROBS Posted April 16, 2015 #130 Posted April 16, 2015 pre-ww2 and the "metal" panels look similar to a WW2 era wing I got in a group to a PBY pilot. excellent wing! -Brian
1st Sgt CES Posted February 29, 2016 #131 Posted February 29, 2016 What a GREAT bullion Wing !!!! ---I like this a lot---Blue Skies Mark This shield and shoulders protrude significantly...which gives it a very three dimensional look.
pfrost Posted March 30, 2019 #134 Posted March 30, 2019 This is a very nice, uncut wing. Similar to some of the other oversized (its about 3.5 inches) wings shown on this thread.
rathbonemuseum.com Posted May 28, 2022 #137 Posted May 28, 2022 I wanted to post this recent acquisition. A bullion naval aviator with an unusual design and of unusual proportions. The wing is more tall and therefore squarer than typical NA designs. It also features 13 neatly embroidered star at the top of the shield. The bullion work and the backing make me think of British bullion work but i have no solid attribution. I am fairly it is of a WWII or earlier age, not a modern Pakistani copy. If you have seen this in a photo or on a tunic, would love to know about it! Thanks. Tod
rathbonemuseum.com Posted September 11, 2023 #138 Posted September 11, 2023 A bullion wing in silver for the short-lived naval observer wing.
cwnorma Posted October 16, 2023 #139 Posted October 16, 2023 A pair of WW1 era Naval Aviation shoulder marks: Just prior to the WW1, naval regulations changed several times with respect to how various staff corps were to be identified on their sleeves and shoulder marks. One change directed staff corps officers to wear colored velvet between the gold stripes (or on either side of the single stripe for Ensigns). Another variation dropped the colored velvet for gold embroidered staff corps insignia worn in lieu of the line officer's star--similar to warrant officers. Still another had staff corps officers wearing shoulder marks with no colors and no star... A number of changes in a fairly short period, and a good deal of confusion. When the Naval Aviation Corps stood up, there was also initially some question as to if aviators were going to be considered staff or line officers. Some manufacturers, seeing an opportunity, marketed shoulder marks with naval aviation insignia to the young Naval Aviators. As far as I have been able to research, regulations never appear to have specifically authorized these unique Naval Aviation shoulder marks; although they do show up occasionally in period photographs. I have discussed this type of shoulder mark with @rustywings, and he believes them to be early WW1 era. This pair came from Daniel Griffin--Always a wonderful source of quality militaria. Thanks Dan! Chris
cwnorma Posted October 21, 2023 #140 Posted October 21, 2023 Another early US Naval Aviation shoulder mark came to me out of the woodwork today: This shoulder mark appears to have had an interesting history during this early transitional period. The Naval Aviation mark on this version is directly embroidered onto the face. The shoulder mark itself shows evidence of having been converted from Lt Junior Grade to Lieutenant. Additionally, a line officer star has been added above the Naval Aviation wings. Apparently, this Lieutenant was proud enough of his Naval Aviation specific shoulder marks to have them modified so he could keep wearing them. Chris
rustywings Posted October 22, 2023 Author #141 Posted October 22, 2023 Chris, you’ve posted some terrific early Naval Aviation artifacts! So few and far between, but I’m confident they were worn in France by more than a couple of Aviators.
rustywings Posted October 22, 2023 Author #142 Posted October 22, 2023 A couple of more embroidered examples.
rustywings Posted October 22, 2023 Author #143 Posted October 22, 2023 And a uniform coat with metal aviation shoulder marks.
cwnorma Posted October 22, 2023 #144 Posted October 22, 2023 6 hours ago, rustywings said: A couple of more embroidered examples. These are amazing examples! Note how large the wing insignia is (like those in the photo)--nearly the full width of the shoulder mark! The young Naval Aviator who wore these was obviously quite proud of his tribal affiliation! Wonderful! Thank you for sharing! Chris
pfrost Posted October 25, 2023 #145 Posted October 25, 2023 Those are neat. Not really my cup of tea, but the are really nice. Thank you for sharing.
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