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  1. Couldn’t agree with you more in regards to specifics of timing however it turns out in the end. But they can help tell some of the story until found, and so far at least with better photos becoming available it seems to continue showing the progression being pretty much opposite than previously thought.
  2. Yes, interesting pic Blueprint, thanks for adding. IMO we'd have to find the original high resolution copy to tell for sure though as I've described in the past in order to say either way. I get how many feel on the subject by what was written and discussed. I also fully believed that theory as well until really digging into it much further years ago which has changed my mind only because of what consistently just keeps showing up when you are able to find the clear original frames. I hear many on this forum keep saying there are plenty of photos from WWII showing
  3. As I got timed out for editing after reading later, just to be clear for any who may think some other unknown documents suddenly appeared. The three pages of written documents describing construction go with the said drawing, all dated to September 17, 1942 and the only currently known detailed description of the WWII era USMC helmet cover. The November 1942 photo is the earliest known dated example shown of the WWII issue USMC helmet cover witnessed so far. Thanks
  4. As one who has been discussing this "notion" here for many years now (nearly eight..whew!), I'll chime in a little since this one has turned to the discussion of foliage slits. I fully respect all opinions on this matter as I'm only trying to find the truth as best possible. As I've said before, the original quest was to try and find when the "3rd Model" began issue. That has now completely turned 180 degrees to trying to determine when the so called "1st Model" was issued instead. First off, my feelings of admiration to all of those authors who have previously taken their val
  5. Thanks Cap, it appears there was some confusion in that thread of possibly a still in production sling for current issue items unless I'm reading it wrong. Here's an OD example of the same net. So when was this produced, and does anyone have photos of this type being worn in field use as net or helmet cover during any period? As Garandy mentioned in his thread, the bright green one piece solid foliage band type Frogskin nets are still somewhat common and rather cheap for a WWII only produced specific USMC issued item compared to the helmet covers. Any thoughts?
  6. Commonly found in the bright green solid foliage band model, hers’s a question I asked in the past on these Mosquito Nets related to how some have been found packaged.
  7. Well, so far there still has not been one confirmed photo to date in order to properly verify and prove that the "No Buttonhole/No Slit" model of the Frogskin helmet cover was worn during any combat operations in WWII.
  8. DiGilio, That is great information and some really nicely done research, thanks for taking the time to present it! If the 1964 contract date does ring true, then going by the norm it would actually represent July 1963 - June 1964 I would think. This would potentially push back production a bit earlier into 1963 as well, which could have meant discussion on producing, and writing up the specs during the 61-63 period with the then issued contract. Who they were made for, either ramping up supplies for USMC or friendly nations still needs to be determined. But your info does help
  9. I agree that finding documents are the key, and hopefully they will emerge at some point. How many photos have been posted absolutely proclaiming either specific proof added within this thread or "already well documented pictures in use" of the "First Model" in widespread use during WWII? These foliage slits can be extremely hard to see, even in good quality photos. You just can't take a quick look and judge. Photo quality and fully understanding how the cover is placed on the helmet needs to be considered before making any decision in either direction. I made mention of Mark Reynosa'
  10. Where the no foliage slit model of the USMC frogskin helmet cover can be readily seen as a primary helmet cover in field worn combat use, from the USMC Archive... Korea 1953
  11. Continuing to study these photos whenever new or better ones arrive, I still have yet to see a fully confirmed photo of a no foliage slit "First Model" in use during WWII or found any documentation. Certainly doesn't mean that they weren’t worn, but with the sheer number of higher quality pics becoming available, especially of the early war period you'd think it would be seen by now possibly. Still looking though! I believe, as mentioned here in the past that while being able to actually see all three models in hand with existing examples and what was confirmed produced post WWII, the p
  12. Buckwampum, I really appreciate you adding that photo to my post, thank you! It certainly does bare a very close resemblance at this point with the heavy cropping, and warrants further investigation in order to confirm with the full size image. Without a doubt a D Troop 1/9 marked vehicle with the yellow Diamond. That information on the V100's in use with the Troop is great info in itself as well. Look for a PM from me....Thanks! Martinmpr, At this point I do believe that he most likely was one of those accelerated NCO's or "shake-and-bake"
  13. A very special helmet. Thankfully this Marine made it home safely. Thank you for sharing it.
  14. As I said with the last example sold off a few months back. Being a 9-42 spec in the golden Frogskin and still in the original factory folds....this is a Mint+. These are almost in a sub-category of their own within the USMC Frogskin covers IMO. Very nice!
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