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  1. Another possibility is that there was Basic Combat Training at Ft. Knox in 1972.
  2. It is likely an Armor School AIT image, hence the armor triangle. 1972 would be when training brigades were how basic and advanced training units were organized at the Army BCT and AIT schools. C-4-13 (or C-13-4?) would be C Company, 4th (or 13th?) [Training] Battalion, 13th (or 4th?) [Training] Brigade. Is a guidon visible in the image?
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    MACV patches?

    The presence of the "tail" on the reverse of the one that was worn indicates that there is a very good chance it is from the Vietnam Era. I don't know when these tails disappeared from the reverse of SSI. The one on the right is either fraying at the top right or that's the remains of a tail.
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    MACV patches?

    Makers would still make them even as colors and techniques changed to fill any need for them. The Army would continue to stock them as long as soldiers needed them. Soldiers eligible to wear them served long after the end of the Vietnam War.
  5. Thanks US82Bravo. Wow, I was off by a bit. I went and looked it up and refreshed my memory. The ADA became a branch in 1968 and continued to wear the crossed cannon with missile while FA branch readopted the crossed cannon insignia. From 1957 to 1968 was the time period when the crossed cannon and missile was the Artillery Branch insignia.
  6. For a time, the Branch of Service insignia for all Artillery was the crossed cannon with missile. There was a single Artillery Branch, no Field, no Air Defense, just Artillery. It split around 1974, I think. Units had designations that described their particular weapons, i.e. 8th Battalion, 1st Artillery (Nike Hercules) or 3d Battalion, 9th Artillery (8" Howitzer). In 1970, I was assigned to the 30th Artillery Brigade (Air Defense). After the split, it became 30th Air Defense Artillery Brigade.
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    Beret correct ID

    1977 is too late for use in Vietnam during the war. The last US combat units had left by late 1972- early 1973 and the south fell to the north in 1975.
  8. If I remember correctly, it is for Army Lightweight Individual Load Carrying Equipment, ALICE. It's the post-M1956/M1967 (and maybe MLCE) soldier's field gear. It was used up until the 1990's.
  9. Quick correction, it is Fort Myer. Often that extra 'e' is added in error.
  10. I was incorrect on this being the back of the SSI. I certainly do agree that there were right facing ones. I have not in the short time I've ben looking been able to find other examples like the one on your coat.
  11. I found the first one (on the orange background) and it faces the other way there. I need to do a bit of research to comment further on the SSI on the uniform coat.
  12. That looks like the reverse side of the Liberty Loan SSI.
  13. The SSI applied sideways and a rear facing buffalo gives me pause. The last image, in my view, is a French soldier. He is wearing a French uniform and equipment. The soldiers of the 92nd Division wore US uniform and equipment and used US rifles. It was the soldiers of the provisional 93d Division's infantry regiments who wore US uniforms and used French weapons and equipment.
  14. That looks like it's for a badge of some sort like a security officer, police officer, or some other non-military law enforcement occupation where that style of shirt would be worn.
  15. You can very easily see the lineage on the US Army Center of Military History website (look up the 77th Sustainment Brigade). It will mostly answer your questions. You can see information about who wears the SSI on the US Army Institute of Heraldry website.
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