Jump to content

RedLegGI

Members
  • Content Count

    1,651
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Contact Methods

  • Website URL
    http://gwothistoryproject.com/

Profile Information

  • Interests
    Kevlar Helmets, Multicam Uniforms/patches, Theater made Iraq/Afghanistan patches, DCU

Recent Profile Visitors

1,190 profile views
  1. Very nice. He also designed that later patch as well. There are some differences but as you said, that one was at least partially done on a computer which would account for that.
  2. A little further info. Made in 2004 as you said by a member of team 361. The patch was designed on a piece of paper, given to their terp who was instructed to find someone to have it made. The writing is in Dari. Only 20 of these were produced, and the same soldier who designed this patch, also designed the ASF patch of which 140 were produced.
  3. The contract numbers, as you stated, don't always match up to the years produced. The reason for this is that companies can have their contracts modified at a later date to produce more goods. They use the same contract number, even though what is produced can be years apart. Below is an example of this. The first contract in 07 was for Navy uniforms, while the second in 2011 was for Army Multicams. Contract: SPM1C1-07-D-1551 2007: http://www.defense.gov/Contracts/Contract.aspx?ContractID=3650 2011: http://www.defense.gov/contracts/contract.aspx?contractid=4663
  4. Unless you have some obvious concern about the pads, then I'd say its likely original. I'm not sure when the 1" pads came into existence. I'm not sure on the exact changeover date, but by the time MSA dropped the CGF/MSA labeling, it likely would have been all MSA marked pads. I don't believe Skydex was used as issue pads for any manufacturer, just as upgrades or private purchase. Without any markings on the black pads, you can't trade them to a specific maker or who used them. That being said most of the TBH helmets by Gentex I have came with unmarked black pads. I really don'
  5. My pads acted differently as well, but I never had issues with bulging. From some of the earliest reporting in 2003, the pads are listed as foam from the guys trialing them. (https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2003/1/31/2003february-special-ops-helmet-to-be-fielded-armywide). The patent itself listed them as foam as well and gel isn't mentioned (https://patents.google.com/patent/US7765622).
  6. Looking at some of my helmets, Dec of 03, they're still 6/8, same in early 2004, by Nov 2005 the've got the MSA stamp. I looked at several lids, but that was just a quick and dirty survey. So CGF is the company whose helmet design was chosen by SOCOM to become the next generation helmet after the PASGT and which eventually became the ACH.
  7. So here we go. 1. The change would have taken place somewhere around the time when MSA bought out CGF's US production. 2. ZAP pads, a product of team wendy, were issued with the SDS produced helmets that were part of the rapid field initiative. They're a distinctive feature of SDS helmets along with the green chinstraps and 'tan' hardware on the chinstrap. The Green/Black on both the ZAP and MSA pads are earlier in the production of these helmets and are a bit of an oddity as why not just produce them in a single color? 3. Yes, they would have been issue
  8. Sounds good, I'll keep an eye out for it.
  9. A few issues here that need addressed, but some great solid info. The MICH (TC2000 after acceptance) helmet was initially issued out to SOCOM, but they did eventually make their way into the regular supply. This is because as you mentioned, they're indistinguishable from the ACH and could be turned in as long as they were the correct size as what was on the record. I've got a few TC2000's that were issued out and used by line units. With the padding, all of these helmets had foam padding, not gel. Some pads made from "Zorbium" do feel much different, but even those ar
  10. The same issues I've seen and would have with this helmet. For me, I'd have to have the guy's full story about when/why it was painted because as Saxecoburg pointed out, it looks too fresh. I have one in my collection that the paint is pristine on because the guy got it ready for deployment, but then was issued a new lid and didn't use it. Helmet has been all over the place, but without that history, I'd have passed on it.
  11. Revision is a late entry into the manufacturing of helmets, so no, you won't see them as early as 2006. The first manufacturer of the modern era of helmets was Gallet, who were then acquired by MSA. Gentex, BAE hopped in when a lot of the rapid fielding initiatives were going on and stayed int he game. Rabintex's notoriety was for their helmets that were prone to cracking when dropped, their non-ballistic bolts, and the subsequent recall. Armorsource unfortunately caught that bullet after acquiring Rabintex. Armorsource does landed contracts, and you'll see a lot of the Riverine and SWCC guy
  12. Nice pickup. The phonetalker lids I don't ever come across in the wild.
  13. The short answer what Martinjmpr said, they applied the tape over the old one. I've seen this before and have at least one top where they decided to do that to avoid the unnecessary pain of having to remove the tapes. Time saving measure, and gets the job done, why not? I've also got PASGT where they've simply put a DCU cover over the BDU one which i thought was pretty genius as well. With 3rd ID there were a few units already in Kuwait in 2002 who had desert tapes, but they weren't the 'standard' you'd see in Iraq. When 3rd ID deployed, the supply couldn't meet up with demand
  14. Yeah, it isn't short for Thaddeus either, its just Thad. I remember this top coming up for sale and seeing if I could find him and came up with a just a name. That is the worst kind of identification, but hopefully over time more info may come out.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use.