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  1. https://www.wkc-solingen.de/en/wkc/history http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/daggers-swords-third-reich/wkc-trademark-evolution-719841/ The crowned king of Weyersburg was sold by the Wundes family (Stephen off the top of my head) in the 1770s. Iirc, outlined in the forward of the Peterson old testament. The Kirschbaum knight mark is outlined in Bezdek and without looking, the 1850s timeline. The Kirschbaum family were an agents/sales/export business, not makers per se. The Weyersburg family did run forges and shops. Both marks appeared on some blades from 1883 until th
  2. In addendum, I believe there were two or three other versions/model years into the 1860s but I am not a studied authority on the genre. Minor differences in dimension and iirc, eight vs seven holes in the later model. Cheers GC
  3. Hi This appears to be a model 1845 Austrian cavalry sword, Without a complete provenance, it falls into the category of a tired old relic that might have appeared in the house as recently the day before finding it. Otoh, it is a sword type that was known to be used during the ACW. I'm not remembering (off the top of my head) an officer photographed with one that confirms an ACW use. A not too uncommon find in as new condition. Look for any marks on the ricasso of the blade. Cheers GC
  4. The USS Oregon involved would probably have been the BB-3 from 1896-1919, although there was an earlier ship. Cheers GC
  5. What does the tag say? There were/are many, many military association groups and military schools. Then there are the fraternal groups but many of those would often offer more clues. Unmarked other than Germany would likely place it around 1900 but there is no other indication I see from the photos. Is there any other etching on the blade? The Ames catalog lists similar as military association swords and what I would describe it as. The form was still a regulation US Army pattern from 1860 until the m1902 sword for all officers. If there are no etchings on the blade, it was likely
  6. Similar swords turn up identified in George Neumann's Swords and Blades of the American Revolution https://www.amazon.com/Swords-Blades-American-Revolution-Neumann/dp/1880655004 Noted as colonial made of the later part of the 18th century. Cherry wood is a good indicator. Similar swords are also found linked the Mexico and Central America but my hunch would lean towards east coast US or the colonial/war years. The tapered barrel tool like grips and ferrules somewhat ubiquitous to the style. I'll meander over to the shelves in a bit and snap a picture of the best match in Neumann'
  7. The scabbard looks like a rusty reproduction and not original to the sword. In general, Tom Nardi's old price guide is still pretty valid but the numbers relate with a proper scabbard. Look at Emerson&Silver 1864 examples on the internet for comparisons. http://swordrestorationtn.com/values.htm I would look elsewhere but that is just me. I would be hard pressed to offer anything, as it just presents as a very troubled piece. The picture of the overall doesn't show anything that would draw me in, even in the $100-$150 range. Cheers GC
  8. This table always just confuses me but a fwiw https://militarycarryknives.com/MKDATEINFO/MkDateInfo.htm Cheers GC
  9. re leather on steel in the 1860s, the PS Justice militia swords for an example Also regard Hamilton's history of Ames (in said book) and the paragraphs regarding the difficulties in drawing the supplied steel as too hard/brittle and having to de-carb that batch of received sheet steel. Iirc, without going to the book, the timeline was the late 1850s. Somewhere in my image bank leather covered Ames swords but I'm not remembering the timeline for theirs. Definitely drawing tubes by the 1860s (per the book). Emerson nco and musician sword scabbards (imo German scabbards, as
  10. A couple of things to keep in mind. Horstmann had huge stocks of blades. Leather covered steel scabbards go back at least to the 1860s. Also. Bannerman. Cheers GC
  11. I think the theory of etched blades earlier for the nco use holds water. It was likely much easier to just change grips and scabbards to differentiate from the officers swords during the decades between mameluke use. Plain blades being of fewer imported runs than originally expected and Horstmann's shop as a mounter. Maybe compare the growth of the corp and increase in nco numbers vs officers during the 1860s and 1870s.against projection of Horstmann's import quantities. Cheers GC
  12. Serially The woman with the sword is Deborah. Believe it or not. Were it a military sword, one would expect it to be (which often was) Pallas Athena. I'll leave it with that for now. Best regards GC Might be Pythian, womens Knights Militant Again, I'll poke around. Heaven forbid it is Judith
  13. Ok then Show its sister and origin. I'd rather not start posting pages from the Schulyer, Hartley&Graham catalog to show the pommel. Nor do I want to show many pages in the first book mentioned that show dozens of fraternal sabers. Nor would I point out a dozen examples in the new testament of etched m1832 artillery swords used by the Odd Fellows and their numerous sword types after the war. It must obviously be a southern state blockade runner item commemorating Molly Pitcher. Or a sword carried by Kady Brownell. Wait though, she is known to have been presented a mil
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