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JMcCulloch

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  1. 1. Another factoid is that the American Legion was founded during the AEF doldrums days in France in the early Spring of 1919. It was legally formalized in the USA by the Summer of 1919 and the members' badges and ribbons were copyrighted in December, 1919. Members badges/ ribbons were sold/ awarded as early as October, 1919 for $1. The Legion was initially for WW1 vets only and was enormously popular. It had 4 million members by 1922. A Legion ribbon in a later photo almost certainly indicates a Reserve or National Guard member, esp. officers. According to the American Legion magazine, despite the badge being authorized by the War Department, very few active regular officers or men joined. Many regular officers were in the older, more prestegious VFW instead. 2. It is notable that there were THREE different versions ( maybe more) of the unofficial Allied Victory ribbon above.
  2. So, following on my China misidentification, this must be a " navy" top bar, as how could one have a China liberation medal without a China service medal ( Straits of Formosa service?). ...so the "sailor" probably had a China service with star, a ConUS and a Pacific campaign ribbon, minimum.
  3. DOH! Thanks for the China ribbon info. I do not know how I missed that. Sometimes I am just... stupid. I am certain I have photos somewhere of an AAC Captain with the occupation ribbon in 1947. He was home in 1948. I just have to find them.
  4. Here is an example of a Canadian bar from @1924-25 ( it came with a Quebecois family grouping) .
  5. To add a few factoids to this discussion: 1. The multi-colored Allied victory ribbon was manufactured by both British and French and by 1919, American ribbon companies. The originals were based upon popular and common " Allied flag colors combined" ribbons sold or given away at bond rallies. 2. A complete silk British roll of the 1919 " Allied Victory Ribbon" was for sale on eBay a few years back. I believe it was made in Birmingham and of a silk/cotton mix and came complete with label and date. Google it- it may still be there in the ether somewhere. Some photos exist of British soldiers wearing these ribbons before the official ("Versailles") Victory medal design was negotiated and agreed upon. British/ Canadian ribbon bars also exist with this unofficial " Allied" ribbon on them. 3. The VFW actually had " recruiting officers" at demobilization camps. I have seen a letter in the Maine Historical archives ( or UNE) recounting a military carpenter being " handed a VFW ribbon and an application card" as he stepped away from the paymasters' table at Camp Devens. 4. My own grandfather did not buy the ribbon, but signed on to go home in late 1919 and was given a discharge button. He also got a VFW medal and ribbon and when I asked him about it said, " they gave it to me as I went out the door". I did not clarify if he meant ribbon and medal, but safe to say, a ribbon was cheaper. 5. the odd blue/red/white ribbon was the special ribbon for the Russian AEF veterans' group. The Kennebunk Brick Store Museum has the uniform of the famous author, Kenneth Roberts on display with this ribbon on it. He was an intelligence officer in Murmansk. The ribbon was sometimes used as a VFW color guard ribbon as well. It is also the same as the Serbian " retreat" to Kosovo medal, but only a few AFS people were awarded that ribbon.
  6. There is a hypothesis that suggests that these were awarded between 1947 and mid 1948. The Occupation medal for US army troops was authorized in early/mid 1947, although discussed as early as the Fall of 1946. The actual Army Occupation Medal was first awarded in 1948- almost coincidental with the Navy/Marine Corps version ( which was authorized in early 1948). The Pentagon debate centered around some sort of award to signify service in occupied Europe, as occupation service was not easy nor all that fun at the time. US troops had to restore civil order amongst chaos, catch ex Nazis, stop rampant criminality, feed millions of starving refugees, combat outbreaks of typhus, diptheria and even malaria in Italy. Then of course there was the hostility of the Stalinists......who were busy taking over eastern Europe. However, Truman did not sign the actual termination of the war Act until late 1946 ( for political reasons, mostly due to funding and the GI Bill debates) and the official closing date of World War Two, signified by the WW2 victory medal, was Midnight, December 31,1946. The Pentagon had (and still purportedly has) a strict " only one medal per each campaign rule. Thus, Occupation service technically was supposed to start as of January 1, 1947. Given the new Occupation medals were not actually given out until the late summer of 1948 and the final design itself was not finalized until January/February (?) of 1948.....it is thought that soldiers were first issued the old style occupation ribbon until the newer version superceded the old WW1.
  7. OUTSTANDING! Booth was my Grandfather's direct commander! I signed his promtion papers and his CdG nomination. In 1942 he recruited my Grandfather back into the Ordnance Corps!
  8. John Wesley Arhorn, 1st Lt, 1917. I find no trace of this officer anywhere.
  9. I picked up this one yesterday: George Fox, taken in Andernach, 1919
  10. LOVE those collar disks. I'd love to own his ribbon bar too.
  11. Pretty cool. I have seen a lot of badges like these above, only with the Red/yellow Spanish colours as the ribbon. Were there state ribbon variations?
  12. L.B. Milner, 1435 R Street, DC 1921. I have always wondered about this one as it was sent to an address in Wiscasset one street over from my old office. Obviously someone who met Clara during the Unknown Soldier Ceremony on Veterans' Day, 1921.
  13. BEAST: RE: post 467 of the PFC with the CdG. What are the Sergeants' stripes on his right arm?
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