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  1. Under the 6 o'clock position on the dial it says: "Swiss" So the real maker could be a problem given that the Swiss had lots of small watch makers and a few big ones back then. Sometimes it's possible I.D. the maker by looking at the movement of the watch. About the hands being rusted away: One of the types of plastic used to make watch crystals gave off vapors which caused the hands to rust. I change out such crystals when I get a watch with them. These crystals are often yellow in color from age. They are found on watches from 1914 up into the 1950's. The watch looks authentic and of a style used in the WWI era. Nice inscription.
  2. http://ihc185.infopop.cc/eve/forums/a/frm/f/990103944 For additional info, visit the above website. Run a search on the Military Timepieces Forum for WWI watches and clocks. Fake watches are a big problem. At the above site you can see images of real watches to compare when buying.
  3. It appears to me that the Pattern 1908 and the Model 1913 came out of the same general stratagy or theory; that a cavalry saber should be used for thrusting rather than slashing. Each designer or group of designers embodied the theory in different ways. That George Patten spent time in the saddle with a sword is clear, the mouth of the scabbard is extra large so that a sword could be put back more easily while in motion. The Patt. 1908 has a wide mouthed scabbard but not as big as the Model 1913. The only similarity is the double The blades are not at all the same. The 1913 blade is wider and stronger than the 1908, and of a double edged appearance. The 1908 blade is more thin and light. The 1908 blade is more like that of a modern day fencing saber.
  4. U.S. M1913 Patton saber upper and British Pat.1908 blow U.S. on left Brit on right.
  5. Thanks Fausto, All of the patches in the brown paper envelopes are made of soft flannel.
  6. I'm not sure of the most recent value of these watches, it's been a few years since I checked.
  7. This is a U.S. Army Signal Corps wristwatch from 1917-1918. The AEF ordered wristwatches from several Swiss watchmakers, each dial has the name of the watch maker and "signal Corps USA" fired onto the dial. Some of these are thought to have been issued to American pilots, given that Army aviation was at that time a division of the Signal Corps. This image shows a common type of watch band used at that time. There is a narrow strap through the wire strap lugs which is also laced through a wide under band. This type of arrangement kept the watch from being in direct contact with the skin, so that persperation would not eat away at the case.
  8. Does anyone here collect WWI watches? Here are a couple of interesting examples: A Swiss made souvenier wristwatch of circa 1917 - 1919. This type of wristwatch, also called a wristlet by the English, was popular with the troops in WWI. Prior to 1914 - 1918, real men did not use wristwatches. WWI era wristwatches are not hard to find with ordinary dials, but colored dials like this one are rare. Note that the flags are fired into the enamel, fake dials are made of plastic.
  9. It's creepy to see them with such a classic American weapon. But as I remember reading, prior to his capture, Tojo tried to kill himself with a captured S&W .38 Victory model revolver.
  10. Fausto, Thank you for the images and info. I like the for export marking on the packets. It appears that these packets were in "the system" and used for some time so there should be alot of them around. Although I have been collecting for many years, before I came accross this bunch I never noticed them before. I'm sure they are not worth much, but are these packets easy or hard to find?
  11. Thank you for the info from TM 9-850. I'm way too old to "get to excited" about WWII items. Given the context of how I obtained these packets, and lots of other stuff with them, I think it's unlikely that they are of recent production.
  12. I have several of these packets of cleaning patches. There are no marks on any of them. As you can see each item consists of a stack of 2 1/2 x 2 1/2 inch flannel cleaning patches packed in a 4 1/2 x 3 1/2 inch brown paper envelope. Each envelope is folded over to close it. Most of the patches have stripped paterns indicating they were cut from salvaged commercial cloth, perhaps intended for bed sheets, pajamas, etc. My best guess is that the packets of patches are of WWI or WWII vintage. Does anyone know for sure?
  13. Has anyone read the two volumes of GUN TOOLS; THEIR HISTORY AND DEVELOPEMENT ? These books have some information about these boxes, though not as much as I have read here.
  14. Great looking A17, it even appears to have an original strap. For more watches, visit the Military Timepieces Forum at www.ihc185.com
  15. I also have an M1819, but converted to cap-lock. Nice to see one in the original flitlock configuration.
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