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  1. The Air Force has never had a very sure-fire method of uniform development. The Army has had a fairly purpose driven system of choosing new uniforms and equipment, at least for the field. But the Air Force Uniform Board just convenes every so often and votes on a list of suggestions sent in by airmen or handed down from generals.
  2. That last set, with the pleated billows pockets, is really interesting. Once I found an OD cotton ripstop jacket of that same design with straight pleated pockets and covered buttons but no epaulets, I think. It had the wide cuffs and also wide waist adjustment tabs, and it was also constructed with a yoked back. I found it where some drunk boater had left it on the shore of the summer camp I was working at, along with an old down GI sleeping bag. It was in very poor condition, faded and ripped, and my mother threw it out without telling me. Was the military experimenting with desert patterns
  3. I don't know if there's a good answer for this, but why do some desert uniforms have very large collars? Also some of the chocolate chip ones had a lining of the same material on the inside upper back. Does anyone know what these differences were about?
  4. I figured that must have been how they came up with the tropical combat uniform, but I wasn't aware of this sateen belted 'Temperate' version. There actually are a few more differences from the m42 jump jacket. The m42 had a stand and fall collar with a two-snap closure tab, while army fatigues had already shifted to flat collars before this model was tested and this is no exception. Also, I believe the m42 had a seam between the upper torso and the skirt, under the belt. The back of the m42 jacket had bi-swing pleats and no yoke. The yoke on this is also different from the tropical uniforms.
  5. Well, I actually managed to find a picture of the the experimental small ALICE pack right here on US Militaria Forum. It was right here, <http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12781&st=0&p=82177entry82177>. The image was found in the October, 1972 issue of the Marine Corps Gazette. But I'm still trying to find out if anyone has ever come across any literature explaining the shift from the H suspenders to the Y design.
  6. This is an excellent thread As someone else already pointed out, there's so little information easily available about the development of ALICE from earlier systems. I'm particularly interested in understanding the step by step evolution of US LBE from ww2 through ALICE. sgtmonroe, your wikipedia article was the most helpful resource I'd found, it's a great surprise to meet the author here. In your article, a reference is made to a field pack, small that was classified by LINCLOE in 1972. I'm sure this wasn't the same as the current "small ALICE pack", really just a miniature medium pack, but
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