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  1. Thanks for the comments all, and great picture aef1917. I suppose the question when this arrives is do I give it my usual rusty/relic helmet treatment (as I have done to a few ground-dug M1s and my rusty pots allegedly off the USS San Francisco) of spraying it with a coat of matte clear Rustoleum, or do I leave it alone? Benefit is that it would stop further rusting of bare steel and lock in the white Xs, downside is it has lasted 75-80 years without anything on it and perhaps I should leave it be. Either way, happy to add such an unusual and obscure helmet to my collection. It should go nicely with my unfinished MSA liner that never made it to having holes drilled. I might not have a massive collection of authentic unit-painted WWII lids, but every time I find something cool and generally forgotten like this it makes me feel like Im that much closer to some museum-worthy items.
  2. Well, I’m still ahead then but value was a tertiary concern, as it is with all my helmets as I haven’t quite figured out the selling part yet and doubt I will. Anyone seen another blank, or can confirm my assumption of the history? It appears to be a high-dome based on the tape measure photo, so I’m guessing WWII. Don’t know how else you’d tell without a seam or bails, maybe it’ll have a heat stamp. That would depend upon where on the assembly line the heat stamp was done, if they pulled this straight from the forming and heat stamping came down the line once the durability tests were done, presumably it wouldn’t have one.
  3. Got bored in isolation and did this again last weekend to a different relic M1 I bought after the first one, which I still haven’t messed with and will almost certainly just clearcoat. The one I did last weekend is in even worse shape and missing about 50% of the helmet, but still has the general profile, and one fixed bail. Extremely rough shape when I started and zero paint visible, managed to pull back a little bit of OD from 75 years in French soil (allegedly Normandy). It’s really hard to see in most lightings and I’m sure won’t photograph well, but I’ll try. Will see if I can photograph it tomorrow for a writeup.
  4. Thanks. If what I’ve read online is true, then that dent was probably caused by a .45ACP at close range?
  5. Helmet blank*. Stupid autocorrect. Can a mod please correct the title? Thanks. edit: thanks for updating, two more photos
  6. Wanted to begin by saying I hope all are doing alright in these dark times. Just bought this shell for a very fair price as a social distancing boredom buy, and because I am pretty sure it is what I think it is, and likely fairly rare if I am right. I believe this to be a helmet blank that was pulled off the line after being stamped into shape from a disc, before the rim or bails were added or it was painted. I remember reading in the reference books that this was done for each lot, to ensure metal durability and confirm the helmets were suitable for delivery to the military and subsequent combat use. Unless there was master-level cleanup done on the spot welds, it clearly never had a rim or bails. The seller is in Michigan, and states it came from an estate sale; McCord had their factory in Detroit. Likely that person or a relative worked at McCord and kept a test shell. Note the white Xs, the large dent, etc. Am I right in my suspicions? Would this likely have been WWII or later? If I am lucky, might it have a heat stamp? And what might it be worth?
  7. In a surplus store currently and came across a few ACUs dyed green, including this one with patches which might lend a bit more legitimacy than the bare ones (initially wrote them all off as some homecooked idea). Any chance this is legit/worth buying? Still in the store so would appreciate input ASAP.
  8. I saw a helmet on eBay a few days ago described as a Desert Storm PASGT helmet. It had an early reversible ACH cover on backwards, ACH pads, and an ACH chinstrap, so I figured it walked and talked like a duck and perhaps the seller was mistaken. Got it for a good price, opened it up, and realized I was the mistaken one but pleasantly so. It is a small PASGT, converted to ACH configuration in January 2005. It was repainted with ACH paint and texture (inside also painted green), given Velcro for the pads, and it appears the suspension holes were filled and redone for the chinstrap. There is a hole on the back, which I guess was for a google retention strap. Cover is dated 2004, elastic band is unmarked, and chinstrap is from Gentex. Since Gentex makes ACHs, going to assume they converted it, assigned the serial number, etc. I kind of played myself thinking I was getting an ACH under the radar, but I have often heard of the PASGTs that were converted to ACHs in the initial deployment period when ACHs were at a shortage. Was this done for all branches, or just the Marines (thought I read something about how only they got conversions)? Pad markings included as perhaps they also give a date clue. Overall it appears brand new, somehow it fell through the cracks. How many of these were converted, and anyone else have one?
  9. Here is mine, it stands out even though I have gotten back into helmets pretty heavily the past year or two and been snatching probably too many up. Bought it at a militaria flea market in Carentan on 6/6/2019 while in Normandy for the 75th. Later found out it had been posted on the forum about five years ago and was generally seen as authentic, then at some point in between the Euroclone liner chinstrap got added. Had to buy and check an extra suitcase to clear enough carryon space to protect the helmet coming home, but it was worth it. Given it clearly being a Navy helmet, and the evidence suggesting liner and shell have always been together (wear marks, rust, etc.), I was able to identify a Delbert C. Langley who served on the attack transport USS Dorothea L. Dix, and according to his obituary drove an LCVP at Omaha. He was the only Navy Langley I found in the ETO, IIRC. He later served as the head groundskeeper at the Naval Academy for 27 years. The helmet was apparently found in Normandy according to the seller, so my working theory is he lost it at some point while he was ashore. Every component on the helmet checks out to 1943 and earlier, so the timing certainly works. Nice early fixed bail shell and a transitional Westinghouse liner. I have since added a reproduction green hardware liner chinstrap which rounds it out. Posting the pictures I took at my hotel in Cherbourg on 6/6 out of laziness, but it is now displayed on a stand and with the aforementioned liner strap. His ship, USS Dorothea L. Dix (AP-67):
  10. Did not seem to do much good for Colonel Stone here
  11. Going to assume this fits here because it is still a US helmet, mods please move if need be. About a year ago, I bought an Israeli helmet and liner because I noticed it was a front seam shell. I have recently started wondering about the history of how this could have come to be. Somehow, the shell wound up in Israel. There, they repainted it, added the third bail (and possibly replaced the side two - will compare their construction to the back one). Perhaps it was a fixed bail at one time, I do not know. All I know is it was modified, repainted, and put into IDF service. Does anyone have/know of any other WWII US shells being converted? All my research has turned up is that we started providing military aid to Israel in 1949, so it could have gone really at any time. Since we sold them guns, B17s, Shermans, Jeeps, etc., stocks of M1s certainly seems feasible. Would love to know when it might have gone over and how many went with it. Since Israel eventually stood up their own production line for shells and liners, I have to imagine this was fairly early, but obviously late enough that they had devised their own three-bail system or they would have just been using it in WWII configuration. Or, perhaps it was sent over for the 1948 war, used in WWII configuration then, and later converted. Just thought this was an interesting historical exercise and hope there is info out there.
  12. An identical helmet was on eBay a few weeks ago and I attempted to buy it, I was not successful sadly. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F254405357644
  13. Got this decent condition Westinghouse in a rear seam McCord shell with green clip on chinstraps. Wondering what NSC FC means. Assuming FC means fire control, no sure about NSC. Note the gray paint under the chipping red, red marks inside the shell confirm they belong together. Shell is green which would be interesting for a Navy helmet I suppose.
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