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  1. Thanks to all of you for researching this question and contributing your input. I had emailed The National Museum of The marine Corps with these questions, but I figured on them taking four to six weeks to respond, so that's why I posted this here in the first place. From an email I received earlier today, here's what the official word is from the Curator of Ordnance, National Museum of the Marine Corps, Quantico, Virginia: "I reviewed the documents and based on my research can provide the following: NUMBER OF RIFLE 110016 I am confident that this is the serial number for a Model 1903 Springfield. It is consistent with the serial number range for that time-frame. Additionally, we have a couple of 1903's with a 110 prefix within the collection. Under Small Arms Record, the MM within the Final Qualifications block stands for Marksman. Under his Prior Service record entries, MQO. 56 Series 1917 translates to Marine Qualification Order Number 56, Series 1917. The Marine Corps issued orders by number and series. Series meant year. Another example, Marine Corps Order Number 20, Series 1918 was the order authorizing them to purchase the Model 1917 rifle. The order stated that the Model 1917 was to be issued to all permanent Stateside units, with the Model 1903 rifle going to Recruit Depots and all Marines heading overseas (Europe). It was formally issued on April 19, 1918. Because your Great-Uncle's service pre-dates this order, I am confident that rifle number 110016 was in fact a Model 1903. It is clear that he was already in Europe when the order was issued. We trust that the foregoing has been responsive to your inquiry. If we can be of further assistance in this or other matters, please feel free to contact us. Sincerely yours, Alfred Houde Curator of Ordnance National Museum of the Marine Corps Quantico, Virginia 22134 Now we know for sure...
  2. Ah Ha! But it's #110016, not #110116. Does that make a difference? Otherwise, we have established that he was issued, qualified on, and was sent overseas with a Springfield M1906 as far as we can tell?
  3. The only problem with this is as it relates to Arthur is that he had left for France on 31 July, 1917, and arrived on 22 August, 1917.
  4. Wow! You need to change your user name to "Hawkeye". Very well spotted... :bravo:
  5. I'm certainly in no position to offer any argument on this subject at all. The information I have provided is all there is in Arthur's Service Record, there is no further reference to anything else related to weapons or weapons qualifications. I've posted this here to get the opinions of people who are far more expert than I am, and I am grateful for, and respect those opinions.
  6. As far as what I understand, rifles were scarce, so what they were issued at boot camp, was what they qualified on, and it stayed with them unless it had to be replaced. I firmly believe that this page from his "Service-Record Book" was from Port Royal. Although his unit, the 4th Brigade of Marines, became part of the Regular Army 1st, and later, 2nd Division, the Army reference on that form is to the "Army Small Arms Firing Manual". There is also three other references to the Navy on that form...
  7. Here's his qualifications page: Sorry, it was horizontal in the original picture, tell me how to fix it, and I will...
  8. Thanks for all of the replies. According to the website WWI.com, "Only the first United States infantry and Marine units (mainly the First and Second Divisions) arriving in France were equipped with the Model 1903 Springfield rifle. Almost all the rest, the vast majority, carried the Model 1917 American Enfield." According to Wikipedia, "The new rifle was used alongside the M1903 Springfield rifle and quickly surpassed the Springfield design in numbers produced and units issued. By November 11, 1918 about 75% of the AEF in France were armed with M1917s." As requested, I'm posting the pertinent documents for reference: As you'll see, he qualified at Port royal on June 14, 1917, before he went to France. In fact, I believe it was a requirement to have at least a marksman qualification prior to being sent overseas.
  9. My Great Uncle joined the Marines in April of 1917, and saw action in France. I recently got copies of his Service Record from NARA, and I have a couple of questions about the weapon(s) he was issued, and qualified on. First, in his 4-516 Service Book, there's a stamp that says: "NUMBER OF RIFLE" with 110016 written by hand. Then, on one of the pages from a form 4-1323, there's a stamp that says: "MQO 56 Series 1917". Can I safely assume that the number is the serial number, and is it for a Springfield 1903, or an Enfield 1917? Just what does all of this actually mean? If I were to guess, I'd say he was issued an Enfield 1917, serial # 110016, that he used to qualify as a marksman. Am I anywhere close? However, in an email to me, a person from the Marine Corps History Division stated that "we consulted the National Museum of the Marine Corps ordnance curator. Marines in WWI were provided with the Springfield rifles only; by the end of War the Army was utilizing the Enfields, but the Marines were not.".
  10. Over the Memorial Day weekend, a friend mentioned her Father, 2nd Lt. John Edward Baker, USMC, (Service Number 049814, Born September 9, 1922, Chicago, Illinois). He was a member of Company B, 1st Motorized Transportation Battalion, 1st Marine Division, and was seriously wounded while fighting the enemy in the battle for Chosin Reservoir. He died of those wounds on November 29, 1950. Her father was awarded the Purple Heart, the Combat Action Ribbon, the Korean Service Medal, the United Nations Service Medal, the National Defense Service Medal and the Korean War Service Medal. He also received the Silver Star, which she has, along with all of his other medals. She would like to know how he was killed, and why he was awarded the Silver Star. She says she also has a letter from President Lyndon Johnson praising him for his bravery, but there's no specifics about the reason for the medal, or the posthumous letter. Aside from getting her father's records from NARA, is there any online sources for information on what led to him being awarded the Silver Star?
  11. You're welcome! I was just happy to share something here. Everyone has been so kind and helpful, so I wanted to offer something. I'm very glad you enjoyed it, and I hope others did and will also... I really wish I had that in color. Scott
  12. After doing research on my family for the past year, I discovered that my maternal grandmother had an older brother that served in the Marine Corps during WWI. He was in the 17th Company (A), 5th Regiment, 4th Marine Brigade, 2nd Division. I recently got some pictures of him, and managed to also get a copy of his service record from NARA. Here's a picture of him in what I assume to be the late 1930's, wearing what I now know to be his Marine Corps League uniform. I thought you all might like to see what the uniform looked like back then. I have been told that he's wearing a MCL medal similar to the one at the beginning of this thread. It's right next to his 2nd Division Assn. medal on the bottom row.
  13. Hi, I'm doing genealogical research on my Great-Uncle, Private Arthur Hugo Stunak, 17th Company (A), 5th Regiment, 4th Marine Brigade, 2nd Division, United States Marine Corps, American Expeditionary Forces. I recently got a copy of his service record from NARA, and I want to make copies of it to send to his last three remaining nephews (age 79, 85, & 89, all WWII vets) so I'd like to package all of it nicely so it can be viewed by them, and eventually handed all the way down to the current generation (some serving in Afghanistan) and beyond. My Great-Uncle Arthur fought in the battle for Belleau Woods, Chateau Thierry, the Champagne-Marne Defensive, the Aisne-Marne Offensive (where he was gassed at Soisson), and finally, The Meuse-Argonne Offensive. I know it may be a long shot, but does anyone have any pictures of his specifically, or of his unit where he may be present? It would be amazing to be able to provide an actual picture of him in uniform. All we have are a couple of photos of him in his American Legion uniform, in the late '30's. Thanks, Scott
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