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  1. Thank you patches. I'll try to be getter at keeping you guys informed. Best Lance
  2. Hey Guys, Johnny Dave and I are working to finish Volume 2 and volume 3. I really hope that it meets you critical review positively. Volume 2 went to the publishers then we had to make some changes at the last minute so I recalled the draft to update it. Vol 2 will be Mess Dress, formal uniforms and distinctive uniforms. Yes I pushed for a couple of chapters dealing with AP/SP/SF and have some great photos from some very nice former AF people out there. Thank you all. The publisher says that vol 2 will be in their fall catalog. I'm sorry that it wasn't out sooner but you guys want it correct as I know you'll be looking at it with a critical eye. Vol 3 will be fatigues, Dave's area, to the ABU and all the in betweens as well as the behind the scenes in adopting a new uniform. Also some speculation on what's to come. For those who where charged $80 bucks for the volume 1 please keep tabs on it's price on Amazon. They fluctuate daily and has dropped into the upper 50's and low 60s to jump up again. Keep watch and buy your copy when it dives. DO NOT buy from those who would gouge you!!! We didn't write this to make money and probably never will due to our out lay to buy things for photos! My wife gets anything I make from the book! If Amazon hits the $80 mark and stays there I'll try to start selling books and will notify you. Question, any of you have any photos of German CSUs wearing a shield? If so please let me know. Thank all of you for your interest Lance
  3. Glad you like it! Hope you purchased it when it was $53 on Amazon. Amazon now has it at $80!! Brother Johnny just got to me the DVD on his chapters on Mess Dress and Ceremonial uniforms. Dave has been ill and has had a tough time working on the fatigue chapters. I have the SF and all of the other gear pretty well done. Schiffer told me that if I couldn't get it to them by mid month that it would be in the 2013 catalog but if I get it to them in a couple of months it should be out to Amazon by summer. Got some great photos of pre Air Police Provost Marshall's badges and a wide variety of brassards. A friend is bringing me an ABU brassard from Iraq. Can't wait to get a hold of it. An SF khaki jumpsuit used in one of the hqtrs. And now a number of the blue fatigues. I call them fatigues because they are cut just like the 60's OD-105's. Right now I have 1,000+ photos and of course the publisher wants me to cut that down removing the nonessential photos. As any author I believe they are ALL essential. So after a long story look for it hopefully this summer. Best Lance
  4. Jay, here are some photos for you. Sorry several uploads failed. If you want to contact me I can send them to you. youngb@roadrunner.com Lance
  5. Hi, Gerate blue shirt. I just emailed a couple of friends about this set. I'd call the Morale Uniforms designed to set certain personnel aside from others and build there self esteem. They are cut exactly like my fatigues in 65 as well as the OD-105's. You will find them worn by crew chiefs with such patches as Eagle F-15 Chief on them. There may still be some worn by special units such as the Andrews AFB VIP section. I'm trying to confirm that now. These uniform will be covered in Volume Two of Into the Blue, USAF Uniforms 1947 to Present. Also covered will be all of the fatigues, BDUs, DBUs,the ABU and the new MultiCam being issued. Also a great section on Mess Dress, Security forces and all of those things not covered in Vol 1. The missile operator in the photo is wearing his blues that can be a set of these or coveralls. I'll have photos showing the wear of this uniform with Unit Ball cap, white belt and bloused boots with latter laces. If you need any further info just ask. Good hunting with your collection. Lance
  6. Don't take the patch off, it'll ruin the overall history of the uniform. I just emailed a couple of friends about this set. I'd call the Morale Uniforms designed to set certain personnel aside from others and build there self esteem. They are cut exactly like my fatigues in 65 as well as the OD-105's. You will find them worn by crew chiefs with such patches as Eagle F-15 Chief on them. There may still be some worn by special units such as the Andrews AFB VIP section. I'm trying to confirm that now. These uniform will be covered in Volume Two of Into the Blue, USAF Uniforms 1947 to Present. Also covered will be all of the fatigues, BDUs, DBUs,the ABU and the new MultiCam being issued. Also a great section on Mess Dress, Security forces and all of those things not covered in Vol 1. The missile operator in the photo is wearing his blues that can be a set of these or coveralls. I'll have photos showing the wear of this uniform with Unit Ball cap, white belt and bloused boots with latter laces. If you need any further info just ask. Good hunting with your collection. Lance
  7. Hi! Actually they are test chevrons in which it appears to have been a free for all in a Standard Brands paint store! The red chevrons have been call "hazard" chevron for such use as fire department situations. They never really saw any service of note. The old straight ones WERE the adopted chevrons for the lower 3. The purchase order went out and tens of thousands were manufactured! At the last moment Present Truman got involved and there was some concern that the smaller (WAF size) non were ever manufactured in the full size would cause a morale problem among the lower 3. Look up Young's book Into the Blue, USAF uniforms from 1947 to present. It has all of the info including Major Spinks USAF Msgt Ret, Civil Air Patrol Florida) and a much copied version of the chevrons as intended with the straight chevrons. Prior to issue they were killed off by CoS Hoyt Vandenberg and the upswept chevrons replacing the. You can get the book on Amazon.com and it is worth every penny! His vol 2 is coming out this summer with all of the other uniforms, Mess Dress, Ceremonial, AP, SP, SF Sage fatigues, Sateen fatigues, OD-105 and )D-107 green fatigues. All of the BDU's and DBU's as well as the ABU. Lots of photos to back up the statements made and lots of research into the USAF Uniform Board! Hope that helps. Old AP/SP
  8. Like millions of other I had my P-38 "John Wayne" from a box of C-Rations, 1965. In writing a book about USAF uniforms (Into The Blue, Amazon) I included a discussion about Dog Tags and one of the statements was how the dog tag chain held many personal items from a P-38 to religious or peace symbols. Never did I think of how the can opener received it's name P-38. There is also a larger broth from WW2 called a P-51. Being AF I thought of the P-38 Lightening and the P-51 Mustang and didn't give it any more thought. Today a WW2 friend of mine asked, "You know how they got their names, don't you?" No! He told me that it was because the P-38 took 38 cuts to open the can lid! Then he told me the P-51 was for the 10-N-1 rations which were the larger cans and naturally took 51 actions to peel back the lid. I was dumb struck that I never considered it. I haven't had a chance to try it but plan to experiment on the proper size cans. Question, anybody ever hear of this? How about any other stories you've heard. Let me know if you have. I'm in the middle of vol 2 and it would make a nice follow up. Thanks to all Lance
  9. All of you AP/SP/SFers out there I am working on volume 2 of Into the Blue, USAF Uniforms 1947 - Present. I will be hitting the AP - SF career field heavily but will also have Mess Dress, Formal, Fatigues, well everything left out of volume 1. sorry no flight suites or aviation gear. I found a photo a three SF wearing what looks like local (in country) made khaki coveralls. They have the SP pocket patch badge and Desert subdued chevrons. Also in very large letters is SECURITY FORCES embroidered on the back. Supposedly they were worn in Ryad as "Gate Keepers" with this special uniform. Anybody got any ideas? Any one wear these and knows what they are? Any Photos? I'd really appreciate the help. Anyone who gives me the straight scoop and a photo get his/her name in the book i.e., "According to ...." Let me know guys and gals, Defensor Fortis! Thanks Lance
  10. Great photos Dutch, A friend, Sarah give me a set and they will appear in Into the Blue USAF Uniforms, 1947 to present.
  11. Thanks Mark, I've found a load for volume 2. Right now just trying to get Schiffer to get Vol 1 out on the shelves. those who have received them say some nice things about it. Thanks Lance
  12. Hey guys, HELP! There seem to be a lot of you later generation Gulf 1 & 2 vets out there. Can anyone identify who, when and why they wore an all khaki uniform with black T shirt. The only photo I've seen of them is fuzzy. I collect USAF AP/SP/SF items and the first thing I noticed is they had the pocket badge sewn on. One had Senior Airman's chevrons and the other two were obscured by some LBE's. What I see is a uniform that resembles our OD-105 geens that we wore before the new BDU style greens came out. They are a s/s shirt with two upper pockets. There are no lower pockets because the shirt is designed to be tucked in. The pants are the typical 105 style that are cut like Levies with no cargo pockets on the legs. All badges, chevrons and name tapes are subdued desert. They are wearing the khaki USMC style pointed cap which a friend of mine said when he was in Iraq that meant they were off duty. Duty status was denoted by the standard khaki Ranger cap. OK, anyone who can answer my question and especially anyone who can provide me a good photo gets their name and unit mentioned in Into the Blue, USAF Uniforms 1947 to Present, Volume 2. It'll be in the chapter BDUs to ABUs. Anyone who can come up with any other unusual USAF uniform photos and explanation will get the same attribution. Now, for my old guys who served when I did. Have you ever seen a Dark Blue Ridgeway? Got a photo? Ever hear of a blue pith helmet? Got a 1954 photo of an inspection at Anderson AFB Guam and the whole Air Base Group is standing tall with blue piths! Only guys who wore something else are the AP's, they're in white piths! Hope you guys can help and thank all of you for your service and dedication. Lance0906
  13. Lance0906

    MP items

    Jayhawk is correct, The Air Police armband, brassard, was worn from the time we separated from the Army in 1947. Actually the MP brassard was worn for awhile during the transition period, 1948-1953. There are two colors of Air Police the light blue lettering and an orangish. You can also find them in other colors, black band yellow lettering, etc., when made in country or locally made. There is also a Town Patrol brassard. You can find them made of leather and other materials. These will be covered in a book Into the Blue, USAF Uniforms 1947 to Present, Volume 2. Volume 1 has just hit the shelves and is hard to find. http://www.amazon.com/Into-Blue-Uniforms-F...3251&sr=1-2 Some sellers are trying to rip us of by buying the first books out at $60.00 and now trying to sell them on Amazon and eBay for up to $181.00. DON'T let them rip you off. I'm pushing Schiffer to get them out ASAP at a decent price. AP/SP/SF, fatigues from sage to green, BDU's DBU's and ABUs, also formal and Mess Dress. I'm trying to upload a photo right now that shows MP's in Army greens who are actually soon to be AP's. If the photo comes through look at their brass and shoulder patches, photo is 1949. Anyone who has a uniform that is of historical interest to the USAF contact me and we'll see if we can get it into the book. All photos are attributed to those who share them. Anyone know of the all khaki SF uniform cut like the old OD-105's/ Shirt with only the two upper pockets, tucked into khaki pants without the cargo pockets? Sorry the upload failed. I'll try to get it posted. Great seeing your items, keep it up! Lance0906
  14. Thank you Kman for the "fantastic!" Took three years to put together. The second volume will be "working uniforms' and Mess dress. we will cover as much as we can uncover. By that I mean now that the book is out we are receiving photos of things I've never seen before. Blue pith helmets for daily wear in tropical setting? Whit pith for the AP's. the volume will cover fatigues, Sage, OD-105's, 107's, BDU's DBU's and the new ABU's. Caps and hats well everything I can get into the book! I hope you guys will be pleased. My main goal was to honor those who have worn the uniform and assist the USAF Historians getting the info out. Some of you have said you've learned things from reading it, well I can tell you I've been learning things daily! German Marksmanship aiguillette worn with the Class "A" uniform? I'm trying to get permission to publish a photo. SF uniform that looks like our old style OD-105's but in khaki, short sleeve with blk T-shirt as a "Gate uniform?" Trying to find someone who has a photo and explanation. Enjoy Vol 1 and we'll get vol 2 out ASAP most likely next winter. The format and photos take a lot of time to complete. Thanks pass it on to friends. Lance0906 Just checked Amazon and they have 6 books for $65.00. http://www.amazon.com/Into-Blue-Uniforms-F...2263&sr=1-1
  15. Thank you for the "good effort!" Took three years to put together. Your hope is confirm, the second volume will be "working uniforms' and Mess dress. we will cover as much as we can uncover. By that I mean now that the book is out we are receiving photos of things I've never seen before. Blue pith helmets for daily wear in tropical setting? Whit pith for the AP's. the volume will cover fatigues, Sage, OD-105's, 107's, BDU's DBU's and the new ABU's. Caps and hats well everything I can get into the book! I hope you guys will be pleased. My main goal was to honor those who have worn the uniform and assist the USAF Historians getting the info out. Some of you have said you've learned things from reading it, well I can tell you I've been learning things daily! German Marksmanship aiguillette worn with the Class "A" uniform? I'm trying to get permission to publish a photo. SF uniform that looks like our old style OD-105's but in khaki, short sleeve with blk T-shirt as a "Gate uniform?" Trying to find someone who has a photo and explanation. Enjoy Vol 1 and we'll get vol 2 out ASAP most likely next winter. The format and photos take a lot of time to complete. Thanks pass it on to friends. Lance0906 Just checked Amazon and they have 6 books for $65.00. http://www.amazon.com/Into-Blue-Uniforms-F...2263&sr=1-1
  16. Hi Pete, I hope you are Talking about Into the Blue, USAF Uniforms 1947 to Present. Author is Lance P. Young, publisher is Schiffer Military Publications. Amazon had it listed at $89.99 then marked it down 37% to $57.00. They sold out in a couple of days. You can find it on the Amazon independent sellers list going for $75 - $181.00!! I've called Schiffer marketing and they say they are hustling the book out as fast as they can. This is Volume 1 and covers the transition from Army uniforms to the USAF Blue. Also covers khakis, 505's, 1505, the Mc Peak disaster to the current uniform called the Service Uniform Retrofit. EBay has them also marked way up. I'd say wait a little longer and see what Amazon does or go to Schiffer Publishing and buy direct. Keep in touch and if it's too long a wait I'll see if I can get you a book. Hang in there Lance0906 (yeah, you guessed it, I wrote with Lt Col Dave Shultz and Brother Johnny Schlund.) I tried to upload the cover for you but the file is too large go to http://www.amazon.com/Into-Blue-Uniforms-F...2263&sr=1-1 Just checked and they have 6 books for $65.00.
  17. I forgot to mention that the two officer's in the Silver Tans with Capt Eddie Rickenbacker Are Capt Jame Jabara 15 kill ace in Korea flying F-86's. The other "Officer" is none other that the first USAF Chief of Staff Hoyt Vandenburg. Hope thatt helps someone. Lance0906
  18. Those khaki suits were sharp looking. Actually the class "A" USAF Summer Service Dress uniform was called the Silver Tans shade 193. They were authorized from 1949 until 1965. After that period the Summer Service Tress was the blue summer/tropical uniform The only "khaki" uniforms were the light weight 1505's. They had replaced the heavier 505 khaki uniform. The Bush Jacket combinations had also been phased out. Take a look at Young's book on Amazon, Into the Blue Uniforms of the USAF 1947- to the Present. Amazon had a sale on them and are out until they get a new shipment. Lance0906
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