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  1. Greetings all, Kind of surprised we never heard back from the original poster in terms of providing more images of this questionable knife for further evaluation/discussion. Well today, I viewed this link and my pea brain finally figured out why the original poster's subsequent "radio silence." https://annapolismaritimeantiques.com/products/trench-knife-u-s-1918-lf-c-1918-intact-with-original-finish?utm_source=attic.city&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=shoplocal For only $1295.00, you could be the owner of this not original knife. And yes, it's exact the same knife. Insert golf clap here. 🙄 Njoy, I did, V/r Lance
  2. No sweat, I possess a few ahem....lessons learnt myself😪. And those experiences were the instigation for the creation of my Frankenspike's thread. While not a post WWI creation, a few weeks ago while online, I viewed what was listed as an "unmarked" M1918 (wooden handled L. F. & C. variant) and just as I was about to purchase it (an inner voice said, "look again."), I then realized someone had simply cut off the guard's/Knuckle bow's extension where it would have been trademarked/surcharged. So while it was in fact an "unmarked" example; a more apt description would have been to refer to it as "modified" and because of that modification now unmarked. Who knows why that piece was cut off yet initially, I wanted to believe I had (finally) found an original and most importantly...a wholly complete unmarked variant. They are out there, but the knife listed was not that. I believe a lot of these types of "put together" knives are playing on the desires of collectors who are looking for something not in the books and quite often, reasonably priced. That is a heady combo for any serious collector yet, if one studies the latest reproduction's available a lot of the fog surrounding these creations may be lifted. At times, I'm amazed at how much effort (& creativity) goes into the manufacture and crafting some of these hokey examples. For what it is worth, many of these questionable examples seem to originate from the UK and perhaps why the broad arrow's/Pheon's fetish is so prevalent on/linked to these creations. Best Regards, V/r Lance
  3. Greetings, Biggest red flag for me is the “1917” marking visible on the inside of the knuckle’s bow. That marking just so happens to be in the exact same location that it appears on a set of reproduction handles (see compared image below). True, the “U.S.” surcharge is not present on the knife you have posted, but the “1917” serendipitously appears in the exact same place, which for me is enough of an indication that the posted knife is less than 10 years old. Perhaps, the “U.S.” was filled in, ground down, and refinished/re-blued. The “1917” fonts are ever so slightly different, which is why I believe it has been refinished. Either case, the “1917” marking appearing in the same location as the reproduction’s keeps me from thinking the posted piece has any significant age. Here’s a thread with the same “1917” marking being used to create the impression something is older than it actually is: Anytime I view leather (scabbards and/or pieces of leather on the knife itself), which possesses the “red luster” color as on the posted example, that color resembles newish creations, which are regularly offered for sale as being contemporary to WWI or WWII. That color comes from a form leather dye or leather dressing, which is frequently used to tone down/age new leather. See what I mean by viewing some of the leather scabbards and other bits on this thread Additionally, contemporary (to WWI) English/British knife makers possessed much pride in trademarking their wares; versus the individually hand stamped dates/maker's name as viewed on the posted example. In the end, I believe this is a knife and scabbard created by someone with no small amount of skill yet, once the broad arrow/Pheon stamps and use of reproduction’s parts occurs; becomes something for a potential buyer to want to believe in, but for the aforementioned reasons…..I believe, it a recent creation. Thoughts complete. Best Regards, V/r Lance
  4. It isn't a US piece, it's a Romanian AK Bayonet Frog. Best, V/r Lance
  5. Some additional threads of similarly marked (& hokey bladed) WD/Pheon knives. Likely, all born from the same "artiste." Njoy, V/r Lance https://www.greatwarforum.org/topic/216067-us-1918-trench-knife-with-wd-markings/
  6. Greetings, Blade is definitely from a reproduction and not like those made by L. F. & C. (specifically, the blade's ricasso area is clearly indicative of a known repro), but I will hold off on judgement of the handle's originality. Picture's-wise, I would request an image in which we may view the entirety of the handle/knuckles in order to see their overall shape/proportions. That said, British Broad Arrow/Pheon marks are a typical "tell" placed on reconstructions/fakes, which IMHO are used to distract potential buyers with something to focus on instead of the knife itself. While I never say "never," all United Kingdom's War Department (WD)/Broad Arrow Marked MK. I knives I have viewed, have always been reproductions or creative "recreations." There is a thread of a H. D & S. knife once on this forum, which possessed a similar WD/Broad Arrow mark and that example was also "fake" all day long though, its owner felt otherwise. I'm no expert, but my eyes still work 🙂 Thoughts complete. Best, V/r Lance
  7. Greetings Rocco, Book only mentions a "V" on the crossguard being one of the (many) quality control inspector's marks. However, there was no mention of the "V" being on the handle, as such, I dunno. Agree with earlier posts. Someone "jazzed" up the knife by plating it. Have viewed WWI US wooden handled knuckle knives and bolos treated similarly by chrome/nickel plaiting so when hung on the wall to support one's service/war stories or presented as gifts; they were less "plain" in appearance. With the knife's "England" import mark, it was an "affordable" knife when it came in to the USA, so plating it (for whatever purpose) would not be the angst raising sin it would be if done on a pristine example today. Enjoy the knife for what it is. Best, V/r Lance
  8. According to Flook's aforementioned book, mould numbers 1,2, & 3 have not been directly/conclusively tied to the other (three) subcontracted manufactures' names who cast them. Best, V/r Lance
  9. According to page 118 in Ron Flook's Book available here https://www.knifemagazine.com/product/the-fairbairn-sykes-fighting-knife-and-other-commando-knives-by-ron-flook/ the mould number "4" indicates a handle produced by the subcontractor Wolverhampton Die Casting Company Limited. According to Flook, that company was born in 1919 and went out of business in the 1990s. Best, V/r Lance
  10. Greetings Gents, Here are some of the auction's images. eBay removes pictures/images after 30 days from an auction's closing, which makes threads like this useless (in the long term) unless pictures are posted while they are still available. Links are nice when they are active, but when stale..... not so much. Best, V/r Lance
  11. Greetings Steve, Knife is not an original Mk. I Trench Knife. It's an older reproduction, likely, of Japanese origin. That said, it could have have been used/carried in Vietnam, but that would require some decent provenance/proof. Best, V/r Lance
  12. Google M49A1 Trip Flare and you will see where it once went. Best, V/r Lance
  13. Greetings Marv, I have always viewed the example in question as being a USMC's depot made M1910 Scabbard's variation. Google "USMC M1910 Scabbard" and several similar examples will show up for your comparison. I have viewed variants with and without drain hole's grommets on the inside of the tip. Thoughts complete. ​Best, ​V/r Lance
  14. Greetings, Handle may have been varnished, shellacked, or otherwise treated with some preservative. Black stuff on the handle looks like the remnants of adhesive or tape.These knives sometimes get plated or otherwise glamoured up by WWI veterans who were wanting them to "look good" when hung on a wall or otherwise displayed. I have viewed these type of knives with nail holes through the wooden handles from where they were once nailed to a board as part of a patriotic remembrance or display. My guess is someone cleaned it up at one point, so it looked snazzier in a display/while on the wall. Handle looks fine and wholly original to me. Best, V/r Lance
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