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  1. I should have figured it became a conflict of interest scenario. Is the implication then that the company proceeded to press helmets once he resigned his commission? If so, that would put Simmonds on the list, but I haven't come across any other evidence that they did or won a contract, so I will keep Simmonds on the potential list in a loose regard. That is an interesting back story nonetheless. In addition to names given between Dean and Crowell, I've also come across Hale and Kilburn, W.H. Mullins, and Sturges and Burn, although some of those appear to be later contracts. It appears I'm still missing a few then....
  2. Ahh I see, lot codes makes sense for the early examples, especially before any major consolidation and contracting for full-swing manufacture. Great information overall, thank you! Another question on early models: Does Simmonds Saw fit in anywhere for early manufacture? I think I have seen them mentioned at least once outside of Dean's reference, but that seems to be the only mention of them. They aren't ever mentioned on the running lists of final manufactures; I just find it strange that if they had a hand in early development, they wouldn't continue on to manufacture. Or maybe they simply never got a contract? Eric, my notes are looking about the same, except for Worchester, can I ask about that one? Also, I tentatively have "H" as American Car and Foundry, but I will admit this is based on loose connections from bits of information. Nothing concrete, but something to consider.
  3. Eric, Here are the pics of the rivets - each side's chinstrap bail and the last pic is the top dome rivet. Do these conform to the roundness you mentioned? I'd like to hear more about your theory on the first letter denoting metal composition rather than a foundry code. --break-- aef, IIRC Bashford Dean mentions the Crosby Company being involved in early work on these helmets, presumably "C co" is them? Inevitably they were assigned "A"? With N being the foundry they sourced from or maybe identifying the earlier vanadium compositions?
  4. Hi Eric, Wow I have never even heard of an NC Co marking before, that must be really proprietary. And aef’s revelation makes it all the more interesting, but of course raises more questions haha. I checked the liner carefully and extensively when I first received the helmet and to my eye there isn’t any form of a stamp left, not even a shadow. It’s not in terrible shape but “used” enough to reasonably assume it has leeched out over time. I will furnish some pics of the rivets later when I get home. Thanks for the input. If you are looking for some other interesting reading on this, it had a good thread develop over on warrelics, if you’re part of that forum as well. I can drop the link in later. -Jay
  5. Hello all, new to this forum but I've been dabbling around the community for a while and on/off helmet collecting for years. I recently picked up one of my all time favorites: an M1917 with an EGA pin. I'm not sure I completely subscribe to any one school of thought regarding the placement of said EGA during the war or after, but that isn't what I'm here for anyway. I was hoping to find out more about the heat stamp. It is marked "WA" with no number. As far as I have been able to find, company "A" is a fairly common maker mark for these helmets, but I have yet to see a "W" steel company appear in pictures or on a list. In fact, the only reference I have seen of it was a passing comment on this forum from the user aef1917. From what I gather here, and on some other forums, aef1917 seems to have an extensive knowledge on this topic, or at least great experience. Given such, I hope that aef, or anyone really, might help clarify if the marking "WA" is legit and maybe expound on that, if such information is available. Thanks in advance!
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