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  1. I have never heard of such a thing. Aside from the USN, swords were not stored on racks. They were private purchase items, and each sword would have been cared for and stored by the officer who owned it. In the case of the USN, cutlasses were kept onboard on racks, but were designed to hold dozens of such cutlasses.

  2. There are quite a few Civil War relics than can be had for under $1,000. Many dealers offer layaway plans, and if they know you - quite generous ones.

     

    Also - Civil War fakes are easy to spot with experience. I think that Third Reich items are FAR more dangerous, and the fakes there have become quite good. Confederate relics are highly faked, but again - once you know what you are looking at, authentication becomes easier. My suggestion is to frequent the dealer sites. Find the reputable dealers online, and learn from them.

     

    I would recommend:

     

    Rafael Eledge (Roadshow appraiser & owner of "Shiloh Civil War Relics". I have bought quite a few items from him. Very nice guy)

     

    Dave Taylor, in Sylvania, Ohio

     

    Will Gorges - New Bern, NC

     

    Horse Soldier in Gettysburg

     

    Union Drummer Boy - Gettysburg

     

    Richmond Arsenal

     

    Gunsight Antiques - Standish, Maine

     

    All of these people are very knowledgeable, and they offer items that range from the VERY affordable to the $250,000 Confederate flag. Just browse their selections, get a feel for what you like and can afford - and go with it!

     

    I will also recommend some affordable areas of collecting -

     

    Paper - many paper items can be had for under $100 - some for thousands

     

    Swords - basic swords like NCO, musician, and import swords can be had for $600 + (sometimes much more)

     

    Bullets, cartridges, and dug relics

     

    Pictures - many images can be had for under $100, for a few hundred.

     

    I hope this helps!

  3. Yes, the "war-log" is still on display. When you see it up close, you can see everything from bullets, solid shot, canister, and shrapnel. These logs are extremely rare, and when nice ones come up for sale they typically bring $35,000+. The one in their shop is from the Gettysburg battlefield, and if memory serves me right - it came from the Reynolds Woods area.

     

    As I said before - the tourist town shops have some VERY nice artifacts for sale, and the inventory looks like a museum. Unfortunately, these items are often priced much higher than the other dealers from around the country - who are just as reputable. Why pay a premium just because the shop is in Gettysburg?

     

    Here is a picture of the war log that they have on display. If it was to ever be sold, it would command a price commensurate to that of a sports car. Their website is also listed for reference.

     

    http://uniondb.com/

     

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    My family tree boasts a pair of brothers who served together in the Iron Brigade (one of whom lost his right arm in the charge on the railroad cut 150 years ago yesterday). I would love to see an Iron Brigade series.

     

    WWI needs some representation too. The 4th Marine Brigade seems tailor-made for a BoB-style series.

     

    Two family members of the infamous "Black Hats"! So they made the charge with Rufus Dawes and the 6th Wisconsin - you can't get more historic than that!

  5. I know that most of you will gloss over this comment, but we really do need a GOOD Civil War miniseries. "Gettysburg" was the last epic that was made, and that is becoming somewhat outdated. If it was done in the "Band of Brother's" style, I think it would be amazing. HBO was going to produce "1776" as a series following the campaigns of George Washington, which was intended to be the sequel to HBO's "John Adams". They were developing a script, and then it just vanished. They stopped talking about it, which is a mystery to me because "John Adams" was an HBO hit.

     

    My idea would be to chronicle a "band of brothers" in one of the regiments of the Irish Brigade or Iron Brigade. It would be bloody, action packed, and attention grabbing.

  6. The Union Drummer Boy on Baltimore Street is nice - they have a killer "war log" on display there.

     

    To be honest, I would stay away from the dealers there. They are overpriced. You can find reputable dealers elsewhere (Dave Taylor in Ohio for example), and pay 30% less than the tourist town shops for the same items. The only time I buy from the tourist town guys is when there is something that I cannot find elsewhere.

  7. I will check some of Don Troiani's references to see if there is a match. I am inclined to think that this IS Revolutionary War era. You can also contact Don personally - he is very friendly among collectors.

     

    For those that don't know him, he is THE finest early American through Civil War artist in existence. His military collection rivals the Smithsonian, and I know for a fact that he has several Rev. War pole arms in his collection.

  8. Thanks guys - I appreciate the comments from everyone. As time permits, I will post more of my collection. This is the 3rd smooth side that I own. I have one New York Depot canteen, one that is part of a group identified to a Gettysburg veteran in the 157th New York, and then this one.

     

    I would also agree with WW2relichunter that complete M1858 canteens are getting difficult to find. The majority that you find are missing the stopper, the strap is broken or completely missing, and the cover is gone. Of interest, though, is that sometimes those covers were removed by the soldiers themselves - it seems to have been a personal preference, There are several images of soldiers wearing canteens without the cover. Even still, complete canteens are highly sought after by collectors.

  9. You also have to remember that the values that we place on these guns are based on collector value. Militaria collecting didn't really become a popular field much before the 1960's (Civil War centennial). In 1945, the Luger and the Russian revolver were worth nothing more than souvenir value. Luger's were everywhere, and if a soldier wanted to get his hands on one he most likely could.

  10. Just to be clear - the red diamond indicates the 3rd Corps of the Army of the Potomac. Each corps consisted of three divisions. The first division was color coded red, the second white, and the third blue. This made it very easy for a general to tell what troops were approaching the field. So for instance, General Meade could have seen the red diamond on the hat of a soldier, and he immediately would have known that it was General Birney's 1st Division, of General Sickles 3rd Corps.

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