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  1. The area around the chinstrap rivet was likely retouched at the Ford factory during final assembly. It's hard to tell from the photos whether the top rivet was retouched at the same time, but it was common practice to add paint to those areas of the helmet before they were packed for issue.
  2. Why on earth would you want to clean that?
  3. "World's War" was fairly common usage at the time. Collier's New Photographic History of the World's War and The 37th's Bit in the World's War of 1914-1918 are two examples that come to mind.
  4. It's out of the ordinary for a 4th Marine Brigade helmet, but not all WWI Marines were part of that organization. From the August 1919 issue of Recruiters' Bulletin, reporting on the return of the 11th Marine Regiment: "Nearly all of the Marines had their helmets painted with all the colors of the rainbow. The men said that a camouflage artist aboard was responsible for the tortoise-shell effects given to the tin hats."
  5. Correct. See here: https://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/254487-french-motorized-artillery-insignia-in-the-aef/
  6. Gah, another sanded lot number. Whyyyyyyyyyyyyy
  7. The number and arrangement of the triangles on the painted canvas makes me think it might be a backgammon board.
  8. This is "collector wisdom" that is not supported by documentary evidence. The US continued purchasing helmets from the British until 1919. Troops shipping out were not issued helmets stateside until September 1918. The 8th Division somehow wound up being widely equipped with British helmets despite not even starting overseas movement until October 30, 1918.
  9. The liner may provide a clue here. It's American, but the shell is British. Usually that combination has a heavy sand exterior finish that was applied as part of the reconditioning process. The "wear" looks similar to other helmets I've seen where the sand finish was scraped off to provide a smooth surface. I sort of like what I see overall but I'd really want to give it a thorough going-over. There's something about the method of painting the insignia that is rather unusual and gives me pause. (doyler's helmet is painted the way I expect.)
  10. Despite the use of a rivet, it's a civilian chinstrap on a civilian helmet.
  11. It is indeed a civilian helmet.
  12. From what I have been able to gather, Simonds never got a helmet contract. Their war effort seems to have focused on tools and armor plate for the most part. Likewise, I have seen references to Hale & Kilburn making m1917s, but I haven't seen any evidence to confirm that. They were heavily involved with experimental helmets and body armor for much of the war. Mullins got a contract less than a month before the Armistice and only pressed about 100 helmets. Sturges & Burn also got a contract around the same time but it's unclear whether they actually made any b
  13. Simonds Saw did a considerable amount of experimental work in 1916 and early 1917, and was the first American company to press a copy of the British Mk. I helmet. Based on this work, the Army offered company president Alvan T. Simonds a commission as a captain in the Ordnance Department overseeing the development of the US helmet program. Simonds accepted, but refused to divest his interest in his company, and conflict-of-interest regulations prevented Simonds from getting a helmet contract. Following a legal dispute, Capt. Simonds resigned his commission and was replaced by Bashford Dean.
  14. Mostly correct. All of the documentation I have found points to the CCo helmets being among the first m1917 helmets manufactured. I have several of these helmets and N is not the only leading letter. Others I can remember off the top of my head are K and O, which suggests to me that they are lot codes. The company asked to continue using their logo when regular production began, but the Ordnance Department required them to adhere to the same marking scheme as the other companies, and they were assigned the letter A. Since the W steel consisted of a single lot of helmet blanks,
  15. Would it blow your mind if I told you the WA helmet and the NCCo helmet were made by the same company?
  16. Seems to me that using an obviously post-WWII liner is just as effective as putting "replica" somewhere inside.
  17. Manufacture of M1-C helmets did not begin until January 1945, which, if my understanding of the space-time continuum is correct, came after 1943.
  18. You're not familiar with the rigger-modified 517th PRCT helmets?
  19. The pool of dedicated WWI experimental helmet collectors is very small, but the Model 8 tends to appeal to people outside of this group. Not having the original finish will reduce the value, but as you said, the potential to move it when a better example presents itself is always there. The liners in these tended to deteriorate pretty badly, so an original one in this condition is a plus. For the last few years,, there have been several examples available at the SOS in the $3-5K price range.
  20. It's an original Model 8 with the original liner. Looks like the exterior was smoothed off and repainted, possibly as part of a theatrical knight costume.
  21. This particular example looks to be a civilian helmet rather than a reused m1917.
  22. I had one once. Helmets of the ETO says they're early, which makes sense since mine was the straight style that seems specially designed to slice through the leather.
  23. There are also WWII chinstraps with brown hardware. M1-C production began in January, 1945.
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