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  1. MajorZ, sorry I'm so late to see this post. Small world, Sgt. Charles Staiger, whose uniform you have, was my wife's paternal grandfather. Glad his uniform ended up in a good home. Feel free to PM me for more info. Bob Holt
  2. It took a while, but someone finally bought this badly faked 752nd Tank Bn helmet on 10/28/19. The seller originally listed at $600, then dropped to $450, then $300. This helmet has bounced around on eBay and has been sold twice in the past year or so. Something tells me we'll be seeing this one on eBay again.
  3. I'm the historian of the 752nd Tank Bn. The 752nd M1938 tanker helmet that popped up on eBay is one of the worst imaginable fakes. It's clearly not US, and the goggles are a mass-marketed "Army-Goggles" toy/general use item that was being sold in Europe some time ago. Look very closely at the "Army-Goggles" sheet that is part of the auction, and you will see it is written in Dutch. In all, I come up with 13 technical and historical problems with this auction. I stopped trying to come up with more issues after I hit 13. This EXACT same helmet was sold on eBay in Rome -- by our friend "flen
  4. Thanks very much for posting this, because the link to the 752nd is a pure myth that got out of control, and unfortunately, I played an unwitting role in it. Some years ago on the insignia page of my 752nd Tank Battalion website, I showed a copy of this ARTC DI. I had posted it as a minor point of interest because the 752nd ran an armored replacement training school when it had been temporarily inactivated in North Africa and redesignated as the 2642nd Armored Replacement Battalion. However, my page contained a very clear statement that this was a stateside DI that was NEVER worn by any membe
  5. Outstanding photos, Iron Brigade! I'm the historian of the 752nd Tank Battalion and can provide a little info about these photos. I just finished researching 1,828 men that I know were in the 752nd at one time or another. All of the men shown in these photos appear in the 752nd postwar records. That first photo was taken shortly before the 752nd was inactivated, after they had moved to the Pisa-Livorno (Leghorn) area. At that time the 752nd had no tanks, they were basically just doing guard duty at various supply installations and some of the tankers were assigned to SEPE #339, which wa
  6. Thanks very much, guys, this is very informative. Great to see the 976th stamped DI too.
  7. Today a contact of mine told me about an eBay auction that just came up for a pair of DUIs for the 350th Regiment / 88th Infantry. They appear to be made of thin stamped "tin" (or whatever) rather than the thicker, more solid type I usually see. I don't know if eBay links or photo grabs are allowed here, but if anyone is interested in taking a look it will be easy to find by searching eBay for the 350th Infantry Regiment. I've seen examples of stamped DUIs before, but never for an MTO unit. Has anyone ever seen a stamped version specifically for the 350th, or any other unit in the MTO?
  8. I found this photo of a tanker who was in the Army a good 6 months before Pearl Harbor. I know that the badge on the right of the photo is a marksman badge with qualification bars. Can anyone tell me what the medal or badge on the left is? I believe this photo was taken before the war began, based on the AGF shoulder insignia and lack of ribbons. Thanks!
  9. Kurt and Dave, Sorry for any confusion or ill feelings, and I guess sometimes I do tend to over-think anything that relates to the 752nd. ​ Actually we're all in violent agreement about the fact that this scroll was made in Japan sometime during the postwar occupation and is therefore considered an authentic manufacture from a collector's perspective. I just thought it would be interesting to layer on some historical observations that might speak to the likely use of the scroll by the 752nd. It seemed reasonable to combine the two perspectives about production vs. use, without under
  10. Thanks for posting this, because I think you raise an interesting point about Japanese-made patches and scrolls in general. No doubt there were many postwar Japanese-made scrolls and patches to represent a wide range of units. I'm just not convinced that any of these particular scrolls were actually worn by any men of the 752nd Tank Battalion. Being the historian of the 752nd, I have hundreds of photos of 752nd tankers in the postwar period wearing scrolls. There were some slight variations in design based on the photos I've studied, but for the most part they were remarkably similar ov
  11. I need to get permission from the owner to post, hope to hear back soon.
  12. OK, I solved the mystery with AAD. I got lucky because both of their enlistment records show a BOS, and both were indeed Cav initially. They were inducted in 1942 so the photos are early photos taken sometime before they joined the 752. It appears that they spent a ton of time Stateside, given that they are wearing only two overseas stripes in photos from 1946. Many of the 752 combat tankers had racked up 5 or (in a couple of cases) even 6 stripes by the postwar period. The owner of these photos had them listed as being from the postwar period, but that didn't seem right to me. I shou
  13. Thanks very much, Erwin! That's pretty much what I thought too but I wanted to get another opinion before I just made an assumption. What you are saying makes a lot of sense. I agree about the scarves too. Seems to me that if they had to suddenly wear Cav BOS insignia, then they would suddenly be wearing yellow Cav scarves instead of blue Inf scarves. So I think the Cav BOS brass is just reflecting prior of later service in Cav. BTW, I should have mentioned that I found it curious that in the photos of the men wearing Cav, they are not wearing any campaign of service ribbons and they ar
  14. Here's a question for the experts.... In my collection of 752nd Tank Battalion postwar photos, I noticed that two of the men who I know for sure were in the 752nd Tank Battalion are wearing Cavalry BOS insignia in their formal studio portraits. I have hundreds of postwar vet photos and these are the only two that show 752 postwar men wearing Cav instead of the usual Armored insignia. In these two photos, no 752 or Armored sleeve insignia are apparent. I know the 752nd became organic to the 88th Infantry shortly after the war ended. The tankers still wore their tanker patches after thi
  15. Thanks so much, Jim! A lot of heart and soul (and about 25 years of my spare time!) went into the research behind that site. It ain't pretty by today's standards, but it gets the information out there and it seems a fitting way to honor my dad's battalion. The 50 web pages only begin to scratch the surface of this unit's amazing history. Anyone who has specific questions can feel free to contact me here or through the email link shown on the website.
  16. Just saw this old post and thought I'd let you know that my 752nd Tank Battalion has a new address: http://www.752Tank.com The 752nd was a highly decorated battalion that served in the MTO. My site includes hundreds of photos, as well as technical, organizational, and historical information. It also includes several original research pages regarding the development and use of the M1938 tanker helmet, the development and use of Rocket Tanks in the MTO, several different detailed battle accounts, and the restoration of an M5A1 tank that is currently in active US Army service. The site
  17. Great map! Right around where it says Tor Sapienza is where my dad's tank got KO'd on 4 June 1944.
  18. Hey Jim, Thanks for the "welcome back"! Now that I'm into retirement I finally have the time to catch up on some 752nd stuff. Just when I thought I found pretty much all there is to find, I'm making new discoveries about the 752 just about every day. Will shoot you an email to catch up. Bob
  19. Really nice grouping! My father in law Bob "Red" Staiger was a tailgunner in the 452nd BG 728 BS out of Deopham Greene. The 452nd BG association is really quite good and they also have a nice page on Facebook. He got in a little late in the war but I think he is credited with 16 missions. He crewed in a few different planes -- Flak Shy Lady, Miassis Draggin, and Frivolous Sal. Hinrichs' book "Missing Planes of the 452nd BG" is outstanding!
  20. I'm Bob Holt, the historian of my dad's 752nd Tank Battalion. I had always assumed that the rounded bottom and the pointed bottom were just two different variants from two different manufacturers, and that both types could have been worn by both the 752nd and the 29th. But after reading this old thread and seeing Bob C and Dave's posts, and then looking at the only photo I have of a DI actually being worn on a 752 uniform, I think Sawicki and Bob C and Dave and Bob C are correct. I have thousands of photos of the 752 and hundreds of photos of 752 tankers in their dress uniforms, from bo
  21. Hey Rich...... If you have any questions about the 752 or if you need help ID'ing any of his 752 stuff I'd be happy to help. My dad was in the 752 and I'm the historian of the unit and have a ton of info. Would love to know his name, maybe you can PM me with that if you'd prefer not to mention on the forum. I've tracked over 800 men from this battalion, but every now and then someone new turns up and I'd love to be able to update my records if that's the case. Chances are good that I might even have some info on him. He might have even known my dad, who knows?
  22. echo1, Bob Holt here. I am the historian of the 752nd and used to run the 752nd website until I took it down a few years ago. I have a ton of info, thousands of photos, and personnel records on this outfit. I am still very active in researching the battalion. New info is surfacing all the time. PM me and I'd be happy to help.
  23. Thanks Ski. Mine has 21 consecutively numbered pages, plus a few blank pages with patches attached to them. Not all of the spots are filled, so I would suspect this was a collection that was started from scratch. I should photograph it, I'm just really hesitant because it's so fragile. Bob http://www.752ndtank.com
  24. Hey Jim, how have you been? One of your earlier shots is a 760th TB rocket tank. This was the first of 8 tanks in the MTO to be fitted with the 4.5 inch rocket tubes. It was an unusual configuration, using clusters of 3 aircraft rocket tubes. My dad crewed in one of the 752nd rocket tanks for a while. You should see his letters and diary entries -- the guys hated these things, especially the 7.2 inch T40 rockets, which had a very limited range and were very inaccurate, not to mention extremely top-heavy and very high-profile. The 7.2 inchers were replaced with 4.5 inchers, which act
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