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  1. We continue to look through my dad's old stuff after he died. Previous topics about this can be found: https://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/335653-great-grandfathers-old-wwi-and-spanish-american-war-guns/ https://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/333945-cast-iron-submarine-models/ https://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/333938-my-grandfathers-wwii-medals/ https://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/278728-two-months-and-two-generations-to-eternity-the-shanes-the-shark-ss-174-and-a-sampson/page/2/ Today we found what we presume was my grandfather's Dietzgen Navigator's Case U.S. Navy. I found a web page, and lost it, where it describes that while Dietzgen was a German founded Company, this particular kit was made between 1936 and 1942 in Chicago. My grandfather in 1936 was serving as a lieutenant on the U.S.S. Cuttlefish (submarine) and then for several years of shore duty he was doing Navel inspections at various production plants, such as Fairbanks Morris production of deisel engines for Submarines. He was on the U..S. Lexington in 1940. In 1941 he was prompted to Lt. Commander to take command of the U.S.S. Shark which was sunk in early 1942 in the pacific. I guess he didn't take this item on the shark with him. I suppose he left it ashore with his wife. Otherwise it would be on the bottom of the ocean.
  2. Just to clarify, my parents estate is roughly equally divided into my dad's trust and my mom's trust. The will states that all goes to the surviving spouse and when both are gone it all goes to me as their only child. I don't really know if the guns are part of my dad's trust or my mom's. As I mentioned, the house is in my mom's. But for both trusts I am co-trustee. The trust bank and their financial adviser at the bank will continue to invest the money to make a profit for my mom so long as she lives and probably I will keep him when the balance comes to me when my mom dies. Probably TMI but I don't really know which trust the guns are in but at the end of the day, i have control of the guns and the house so the FID card is the best way to preserve our history.
  3. By the way, as for the ammo, I am definitely not keeping it. But I hear what people here are telling me that others would value the old ammo. So I will do my best to give or sell the ammo to someone who would value it for it's historical value.
  4. Thanks. We are not rushing to sell the house. I am co-trustee along with the trust bank. The bank has no interest in anything other than the financial assets. As it is the house itself is deeded to my mom. She keeps telling me it's my house now and I keep telling her that it's actually hers. Regardless, the house won't be sold until I decide to sell it. Technically speaking, the guns belong to my mom now but she has no way to keep them being in assisted living. I don't know that I mentioned this but my neighbor is on the board of a shooting club just 10 minutes walk down my own street. They conduct these 3 hour gun safety training classes at their shooting range on Sundays. I expect that just doing and getting my FID card is both the legal path as well as the path of least resistence. I'll likely do it in the spring. I don't know if as trustee of the estate if I have any particular privileges but just getting the card is probably still the easiest.
  5. These markings are just rear of the front site on one of the two, Krag or the 1903. I would need to check. Don't know if they mean anything significant.
  6. Thanks for that tip. Looking up the serial number the 30-40 Krag was supposed to have been made in 1900, after the war was over. But I will still check.
  7. I have learned from my uncle that the Colt pistol was actually owned by my grandmother! Wife of my grandfather whose WWII medals i posted here. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/333938-my-grandfathers-wwii-medals/ My Uncle also tells me that he has my Great Grandfathers Navel officers sward! We had discussed generally that he regard me as the keeper of our family history. I guess his daughters are not really interested in the stories and artifacts. And my son and daughter show good promise for carrying the history forward. I've asked my Uncle if at some point I might take posession of the sward. He is in his mid eighties. I think he'll agree. That Naval officers sward of my great grandfather would be worth more to me than the entire collection of items I've so far posted.
  8. I hate to ask people to go to any trouble. But if its fun... he was Louis Shane, born on April 9, 1877 in Austria/Hungary. Came to the US with his family at the age of 3. He entered the US Naval Academy Sept. 6, 1894 and graduated June, 1898 A member here, aerialbridge, wrote up a nice story about him at the link below. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/278728-two-months-and-two-generations-to-eternity-the-shanes-the-shark-ss-174-and-a-sampson/ As to any of his service medals, aerialbridge actually has one of them. The others? Sadly I expect that those went into circulation along with the one aerialbridge has. But we have not fully gone though my Dad's study and there could be some other things yet to find.
  9. I want to thank everyone who has replied to this topic even though not all appear to be military items. The Spanish knock off of the S&W Model 3 almost certainly confirms the family story that my great grandfather did disarm a Spanish Lieutenant in Cuba in the Spanish American war. My guess is that the .22 and the M12 were not directly associated with my great grandfather's Navy career but may have been extra curricular. I don't know about the Krag .30-40 or the Smithfield 1903 rifles. My great grandfather was a US Navy officer during the Spanish American War and WWI. I do know that he spent significant time off of ships in the Spanish American war, both in the Philippians and Cuba. I don't know how much in WWI. By WWI the was a ship captain at least for a time. After the war he went into Naval engineering and Naval ship building and would have had plenty of time for recreational hunting. I need more on my great Grandfather's service record. The Cold .25 is a serious mystery. Perhaps I can jog my Uncle's memory. I wish my dad was still around to ask these questions but I suspect he wouldn't know either. I don't know that my dad ever mat his grandfather.
  10. I had read earlier on that for guns 100 year old or more and if ammo was no longer readily commercially available that the guns could be declared antiques and that I would not need to get an FID card. But it looks like most or even all of these would not meet the "ammo no longer easily commercially available" criteria so I've pretty much given up hope that I could skip the FID card process. I also can't skip the locked gun box or trigger lock requirement for storage.
  11. I believe it's just that one needs an Firearms ID card to have guns or ammo. My neighbor does skeet shooting. He was telling me that one needs to take a 3 hour class on gun safety and then apply at the local police station. IMO not draconian. Just a step I need to take in the process.
  12. Thanks a lot for the comments on the ammo. I'll see about more photos of the .25 box. I hope someone can comment on the Colt pistol from 1915. I'll try to look to where my great grandfather was stationed in the navy around then.
  13. So all together, I need to make sure that I legally can keep the guns and legally get rid of the ammo. So far, here is the entire find in my dad's Study. Guns M12 Shotgun manufactured 1919 Winchester Model 1890 .22 Short rifle manufactured 1917-1919 Krag .30-40 manufactured 1900 Springfield Model 1903 manufactured 1918 Spanish knock-off of Smith and Wesson Model 3 made between 1884 until the 1920s Colt Model 1908 Pistol manufactured 1915 Ammo Full clip of .25 ammunition and a half full box 3 boxes of .22 ammunition Partial 2 boxes and two clips of .30 ammo?
  14. Last there was ammunition .30 bullets. I guess for the Krok? And 3 boxes of .22
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