Allen Dail

If you are talking about the Nylon case with hard plastic insert thar kit comes in two different sizes. The original size was similar to the WW II jungle first aid kit. Later in the late 80s or early 90s it was enlarged by 2 or three inches. They look the same but ones case and inset is larger than the other.

The pack is an M 1944 converted to M 1945 standards . The old quick release tabs under shovel tie down on lower front and center lower rear are the telltale signs of this. Shpuld be a tab on either side of pack as well. Check under upper flap equipment flap for a date.

Found a link showing shovel attached to suspenders. I believe i is the same type as posted above. There is another post on the covers with disk I will still try and find. In this thread posted by Andrew of Candians testing Experimental U.S. gear. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/270367-early-ex54-gear/page-3

I remember seeing one posted in this forum but can't find thread. I think it is a test example and the brass disk between attachment clips slides into a slit/pocket on the suspenders. Still searching for thread will post link if I find it.

Experimental winter boots. Another thread here with some info and pics. http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/106281-woodland-goretex-gaitors/?hl=boots

Your new field jacket is an issued piece. Looks like they printed label wrong or sewed wrong label in that jacket , incorrect printed 00-782 marked through and correct 01-099 ink marked in. That is how I read the label and marking. Also yes Woodland field jackets were commercially made as well.

In response to your question on socks, here is a pic of my standard socks. I do not have a pic of the sock liner/ dress sock at the moment but it is a thinner more smooth sock.

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Yes Pawtwo that is the long johns that I was issued except my drawers were white instead of brown. I was not issued poly pro until Germany. I preferred the ones I was issued in basic over the polypros , plus we were only supposed to wear natural fibers under our nomex on tanks. a pic of my top and my bottoms looked like these not sure if these are the exact model but they were white like these.

I will try and get pics of the sock and sock liner sized to fit here later today. Allen

We had a dark blackish blue color for the sock and sock liner. The sock liner was basicly a dress sock. I don't think you could wear dress gloves with BDU's. The balck work glove shells with or without liners.

that is all I have hope it helps. Just remembered I got the beret issued at Fort Hood on Feb 1, 2001 at Fort Hood. Regards Allen

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last is CIF issue from Fort Hood, Texas July 22, 2000

3rd is CIF central issue facility gear that had to be turned in before pcs to another post. I was a tanker so the special issue gear will be different for different moss's. This was issued at Hanau, Germany June 11 1998.

2nd is dress issue from same time and place if I can get it posted the site is kicking me off after every post

Hello Pawtwo I finally got my issue list scanned like I typed above. first is basic issue from Fort Knox fEB 18, 1998

I can't upload pics from my phone of my initial issue print out from Feb 17, 1998 at Fort Knox. I am going to post pics of my cif issue from 1-1 Cav in Germany and 1st Cav Div in Fort hood as well. First basic issue that the soldier keeps all of these items. I will list them and post pics tomorrow. 1 Belt( standard belt for use with BDU's. 2 Cap BDU HW hot weather cap. 3 Cap Cam standad BDU cap. 4 Gloves Lt Dy black work gloves. 5 Coat HW BDU Hot Weather BDU coats two. 6 Boots Black combat boots two pairs. 7 gloves inswl glove liners for work gloves two pairs. 8 Field Jack two 9 Coat Camof regular BDU top two 10 sockliner these are thin dress shoe type two pairs.11 socks 408 regular boot socks seven pair 12 trou HWBDU hot weather bdu pants two 13 unshirt brown seven 14 trou Camof regular Bdu pants two 15 Bag Barrack 16 Buckle Blk standard trouser belt buckle for bdus 17 headband for kevlar. 18 tag id dogtags two 19 necklace id dogtag chain 20 cover tag a rubber tag shaped cover to cover one one dog tag. 21 Undshwlbwn long john top two 22 drws wl bn long john pants two mine were white 23 drawers br underwear seven 24 towel br four 25 bag duffel 26 cap cw cam helmet liner. 27 trunks pt shorts grey three 28 jersey pt shirts grey three 29 sweatpants pt sweatpants grey two 30 sweatshirt pt sweatshirt grey 31 cap knit black watch cap 32 name tape six 33 army tape six. Next sheet dress uniform 1 belt brass belt for dress pants looked the same as standard bdu belt 2 buckle brass dress buckle 3 cap garr garrison cap 4 necktie 5 shoes dress 5 sock liner 6 unshirt whi white undershirt two 7 coat aw black trench coat 8 gloves dr bl dress gloves 9 trsr 489 dress trousers greeen two 10 coat ag 489. 11 shirt ls the long sleeve shirt light green you wear under dress coat. 12 shirt ss same as above except short sleeve two 13 insignia specialist rank one pair That is all of initial issue from basic Stuff issued from cif and turned in kevlar helmet, canteen cup and cover, two M 16 ammo pouches, suspenders, pistol belt, poncho, cold weather parka and liner, trigger finger mittens if i remember correctly, field jacket liner, wool blanket, first aid pouch, sleeping bag, water proof bags two, that is all i can remeber of basic issue from cif. We got a gas mask from unit and nomex just for gunnery that were also turned back in. Will post cif issue in Germany a little later. Regards Allen

I was is in Armor and we had a black knitted balaclava that we could wear in winter not sure if this was issued to other units though. Here is a pic of me wearing it under my cvc at Grafenwohr ,Germany. Some guys also wore the watch cap or beanie of the PT uniform in cold weather under the Helmet in the field. Regards Allen

Here are pics of the Hot Weather BDU cap. As stated above it does not have earflaps and has three vent gromments on either side

only marking is size 9W centered on tongue. Regards Allen

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