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  1. Wow, thanks for the info aznation. Interesting there are 2 different dates, release date June 1961, discharge date October 1966. maybe reserve duty? Mike B, thanks for the recommendation. I have read both editions of the book, along with most of the references I have been able to find on the Thresher. The most recent, and for my money the most probable theory is Bruce Rule's, based on his SOSUS analysis. A retired Navy officer named Bryant (he served on Thresher class boats and commanded one) has successfully sued the Navy to force them to release all the files from the Court Of Inquiry into her loss. The Navy has been dragging their heels, kicking and screaming fighting the release. Big controversy within the Navy Officer Corps. The release is supposed to start in September, at a rate of 300 pages per month. I believe there are 3600 pages. We'll see what happens. Of course, the reality is every theory is just that, theory. We will probably never know what really happened. Thanks again for the info. Steve
  2. Interesting to note this deep dive was made very near to the position where she made her fatal dive in 1963.
  3. "Order Of The Archibenthic" Can't be many of these around. An award given to an Electrician"s Mate Senior Chief recognizing the deepest dive made by a submarine (the Thresher) up to that time, May 1961. Obviously each crewman aboard at the time received one of these. Signed by the Captain, Dean L. Axene. The recipient must have later transferred off the ship, as he is not listed as being aboard when the Thresher was lost 2 years later. The Archibenthic refers to a zone of depth in the ocean, between 200 and 1000 meters. Had to look that up, it's a word I had never seen. Apparently similar in concept to the documents given for crossing the equator. It measures about 10 X 13 inches. I remember vividly the Thresher's loss, and have had an interest in it ever since. I was thrilled to acquire this, to say the least.
  4. Beautiful group of weapons. Thanks for showing them. Steve
  5. Don’t be so certain it didn’t make it overseas. I once owned an M1917 S&W that I bought from the family of the doughboy that was in excellent condition. I had owned for quite a while before I removed the grips and discovered he had written his name, rank, and unit inside one of them. Steve
  6. The bolt is improperly assembled. Easy to remove and correct, I’m sure there are some videos on youtube showing this. Steve
  7. Looks like an 1860 Navy cutlass that has had the grip replaced and the bowl handguard removed.
  8. Maybe it’s just the pics, but I’m not seeing the bright polished blue a 1917 Winchester should have.
  9. I guess if you collect boxes that would be desirable. If you collect bayonets, not so much. Steve
  10. It’s British, not US. No idea what kind of plane or time period.
  11. Without commenting on the authenticity of this uniform, in general, it was the tailor who wrote the owner’s name on the tag.
  12. I’m no expert but this helmet looks contrived. The “shadow” of the net is bizarre. Not something I would want. Steve
  13. Westfront 1918. The Bavarian’s last moments.
  14. Another question. The soldier closest to the camera on the left is armed with a 1917 revolver. What is the pouch where the ammunition pouch should be worn? It’s not for the 1911, it only seems to have one central snap. Maybe the revolver pouch with the bottom segment cut off? The soldier behind him on the right file is also armed with the revolver, and is wearing the correct pouch. Steve
  15. I am very suspicious of any graffitied helmet cover. These in particular look pretty fresh. Any piece of gear worn in the field gets trashed in a hurry. Rained on, dried, over and over, faded in the sun, sat on, scraped, scratched, tossed on the ground, etc etc. Add to that the fact that I’ve never met a vet that had the slightest interest in bringing stuff like that home, I’m always skeptical. I’m sure somewhere somebody did bring their helmet cover home, but I bet there are damn few of them. Steve
  16. I would have doubts. Especially in the pic of the whole stock, the stamp looks awfully crisp in relation to the overall condition of the stock. Steve
  17. The soldier on the left is wearing a private purchase uniform, plenty of enlisted men did this. Steve
  18. Cool grouping. One or my dearest friends was in Charlie company of the 329th. He was a replacement during the Bulge, and over the many years I knew him he provided me with an intimate look into the life of a combat infantryman in the ETO. His platoon leader, Lt Springer, (who ultimately commanded the company) had earned a battlefield commission.
  19. Now if we can only get Mexico to return the Alamo flag to us..... Steve
  20. Just read about the DSC being postwar. Devalues the group even more in my opinion. To my mind, there is a big difference in value between a medal that was pinned on the recipient’s chest by General Pershing and one that came in a box in the mail years after the war. I’m not saying the group is not historically significant, just that being postwar affects its value in a major way. Steve
  21. You can get these and a lot more documentation from an outfit called The Floating Drydock. Steve
  22. Nice group, but grossly overpriced in my opinion. The bulk of the group is postwar filler. The wings, squadron pin, DSC, photos, flying license and ID card are the core of the group, and they are not worth $33,000 in my humble opinion. It will be interesting to see if it actually sells. Steve
  23. Thinking about the vets I knew, I don’t think they were motivated by bloodlust, or whatever. I had long talks with these vets over a period of many years. One of them was an artist, a cultured and sensitive man. He happened to have beem a Forward Observer in the 80th Infantry Division, fought from Normandy to the end. He had scars on his shoulders from the straps of the radio, and he had nightmares until the day he died. The impression I had from these men was that they hated being dragged over there and having to do what they did, and they blamed the SS (with ample justification) and took it out on them. We had already gone over in WW1 to fight the “war to end wars” and to “make the world safe for democracy”. And here we were 25 years later doing it all over again. These guys were pissed off. One of them remarked about seeing the thousands of screaming, saluting Nazis in the newsreels before the war, yet when he got into Germany all he heard was “ich nicht bin ein nazi”. As he said, we couldn’t have killed all of them. Steve
  24. Of course if Hitler and the Germans hadn’t been such aholes and brought untold human suffering and millions of deaths to Europe, the Americans wouldn’t have been there to kill prisoners and rape women. Steve
  25. Over the years I have spoken to many combat veterans. I was particularly close to 3 of them, all were in ground combat in Europe (one of them in the Pacific as well) and they were unanimous in their statements that SS prisoners were summarily shot. They all knew who the SS were and how to identify them. One quote has alway stayed with me: “yeah the SS were tough, but when we ran them down the street after we cleaned out a town they sh-t their pants like anyone else. They knew what was coming and they got it”. Another said as far as was concerned, “the average kraut didn’t want to be there any more than I did, but the SS was different”. He said they would cull out the SS, and the platoon leader would tell a BAR man or a GI with a Thompson to “take these prisoners back to the stockade and be back in five minutes”. The GI would take them around a bend in the road or behind a barn and return alone. The GIs who fought and defeated them knew the SS were not “soldiers like other soldiers”. Steve
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