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  1. Finally...I added some text. I put the unit name above the crest, in raised font. And I engraved the rim with "Camp Upshur" atop. We have a joke motto on Camp Upshur. We are literally as far from the flagpole as one can be on base, and thus mostly escape the politics of the National Capital Reason. Quantico's slogan is "The Crossroads of the Corps". As we like to say about the camp, it's located "Where the Crossroads End"

     

    Next step is to test print this and see what alterations or overhauls are needed....

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  2. I decided to incorporate this crest into the coin, which required me to download and learn the basics of INKSCAPE, which allowed me to reformat the image into SVG, which is readable on Blender...While I love the terrain features in the background, it was a bit busy, so I just went with the basics. Once I converted it to svg, I was able to upload it on Blender and render it three dimensional...

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  3. Did the other side tonight...much quicker with some of my newly acquired skills.

     

    I'm not too confident this side will print right, and if not I have another idea that could replace it. Guess we'll find out once the test prints are done...

     

    A couple years ago, the Commandant directed that the Battle Skills Test, or BST, be reinstated, but performance based rather than written test. We decided to put together a comprehensive, week-long training package at Camp Upshur that covered all 30 required skills and culminated in a 12 km, 12 station FINEX. We have done 8 iterations, with the last being the week COVID blew up. About a year ago, I went to combat camera and commissioned a crest to be used of our materials for the course. The Marines over there treated it as a competition, and a few different variants were proposed, but this is the one we ultimately settled on...

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  4. If you actually read my post, you'd see that I did not post that link to compare the medal to yours. I did not state they were the same. I posted it to refer to Adam's post of the existence of reunion strikes...and nobody said the medal in the thread was a reunion strike.

     

    I know Owen, and I knew Bob...and while I trust both of their opinions they are just that-opinions. As was what I originally posted. An opinion. That's prefaced with the phrase "in my mind". I never presented it as fact. These are so rare that even the most experienced collectors may not have handled any number of originals.

     

    What I don't understand is why you didn't post this in your original topic, instead you posted an auction link in a new topic without initially stating ownership, as if you as a third party had stumbled upon something you were not going to buy and thought the forum would be interested, essentially violating the forum rules about listing outside sales and really just plugging your sale. If you are worried about other people's opinions affecting the sales price of your items, then don't post them on an open forum.

     

    As with anything in this hobby, it's up to the buyer to make his own determination.


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    On 8/6/2020 at 1:52 PM, Tinley100 said:

    . There was no mention of a second run of these medals

     

     

    On 8/6/2020 at 5:38 PM, Tinley100 said:

    this strike (there were 2) has this design on it- there was a second strike that was either done  before or after that doesnt have it. The other one has the suspension ring turned 90 degrees

     

     

     

    So which one is it? In one post you say there was no second run, however in another you say there was two strikes.

     

    From what I've read (I believe in "No Bended Knee", but I'd have to check that) the first mold broke after about 50, and a second mold, I imagine made from recasting a first strike medal and thus diminished in detail quality, lasted around the same.

     

    Also, it is believed that these medals were also struck in the 60s or 70s for a veteran reunion for those who never received it...Adam refers to it in this topic:

    I would imagine that back then they simply used an original medal to make the cast and thus, after 50 years of natural patina, they could be mighty convincing.

     

    I think a definitive analysis of an unquestionable original that includes weight, exact measurements, etc should be conducted. Without rock solid provenance...and I mean rock solid...I just don't trust any of these. I'd certainly gladly pay good money for an unquestionable original...but I would not want to risk spending thousands to find out in twenty years it was not, ala Champagne Runes fiasco

     

    I'm looking to see if I have any photos saved...I didn't transfer much of my photos from my old laptop of stuff I stopped collecting


  6. I am on my phone so can't pull anything up, and if there's provenance then the auction should at least mention, if not depict that. Particularly that venue, as most people I know who have dealt with them, and I myself when perusing their inventory, have seen a mix and match of real and fake.

     

    I assume the one you are keeping is the one with provenance and in a group, while the other is the one off eBay. To me, a side by side comparison is not provenance as likely the best replicas were cast from original strikes and the original medals were so crudely made to begin with that repros are more likely to be accepted as real.

     

    You state you have researched the medal more than anyone and it is 100 percent real. Why? How did you ascertain this? I'm sorry, but without concrete provenance to the particular medal in question, on an item like this where only about 100 were struck, and only about 50 from two different does...I personally need something more than a side-by-side comparison between an eBay medal and Craigslist medal. Have these been weighed, microscopes, compared to more than just each other? I'd love to be definitively proven wrong, perhaps by a comparing it to someone like General Vandegrift's or General Twining's medal, who wrote about it in his book and undoubtedly kept his.

     


  7. Technically, at least in the Marine Corps, uniforms are supposed to be stored without insignia or ribbons and only put on for wear.

     

    So, just for conversation...let's say you found a Marine uniform to a historically significant individual...MOH, commander of a famous campaign, whatever...devoid of all insignia. Would you just display the slick blouse as is? No ribbons, no EGAs?


  8. 5 hours ago, huntssurplus said:

     If you like to live in your own fantasy where every vet came home with a plethora of cool insignia, then go ahead and restore a uniform

    Just my 2 cents.

    Hunt


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    You're describing a humped uniform, or a representative uniform, or even a fantasy uniform...not a restored uniform. Restored uniforms are those that have original and RATED insignia/awards added after meticulously researching the vet's service record...and is disclosed when offered for sale/discussion


  9. Next...I had to add words to the rim. I considered 3D text, but decided instead to engrave the text, so when I 3D print these, I can use a syringe to fill the voids with colored resins to minimize painting.. However, once I start test printing, if the engraving is too narrow, I might have to switch to raised text. This required me to learn how to use text, how to wrap objects, and how to engrave a 3D model...excuse the tilts...engraved words do not appear when viewed straight on since it's all the same color. I had to cant it to capture the details

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    Finally, I decided to fill the void on the rim by added a couple of 4-point stars I found for free on a 3D modeling site....

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    And that completes the first side of the coin. Ultimately, it took me 6-8 hours of work, but largely because it took several tries on a lot of it as I learned new skills and watched tutorials. On the other side, I have a couple of ideas that will also require me to learn a few of the other tools in Blender...once that's done, test prints, and painting. If anyone's interested, I will update this as I go


  10. As the senior enlisted of a small, out of the way unit in Quantico...I often get asked if we have challenge coins, as Quantico breeds coin collectors. As we are usually a 6-10 man detachment...we do not.

     

    I recently got a 3D resin printer to putz around with...and a couple days ago decided to learn the ins and outs of Blender by trying the different tutorials in making a coin. Once I finish this, I intend to print some out and give them to my Marines. But thought I'd share the progress as this is an interesting learning curve and I can see these skills being used in personalizing plaques and retirement awards. For those who are thinking of getting into 3D printing or rendering, Blender is a completely free animation tool with crazy amounts of features. I'm actually amazed that they give something this complex away for free...that said, it comes with a steep learning curve and YouTube videos are a godsend.

     

    First, I created a base...this required me to learn how to use basic shapes, how to hollow them, and how to utilize vertices to round/smooth edges...in also got me familiar with some of the dozens of hotkeys in the program, and comfortable with working with 3D axis

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    Once upon a time during my early days at the unit, my facilities chief was touring the camp and thought he saw a chicken sitting out on the fence. What it turned to be was a styrofoam chicken...which we think may have been used by role players and abandoned. He was in rough shape, missing feathers, with an eye falling off and missing his comb...so we dubbed him war chicken, replaced his comb with a National Defense Ribbon, wrote him an official bio, and tucked him under John's arm. Some of you have met John....https://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/328029-meet-john/&tab=comments#comment-2636297.

     

    War Chicken has become sort of our mascot, is present at all unit functions, and occasionally sports an eye patch. So chicken had to be on the coin. I found a free 3D model of a chicken and tooled him up for the coin a bit...learning to bisect unneeded parts and even sculpt an eyepatch. Blender is essentially a giant digital clay sculpting program...

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    Next I had to get chicken on the coin, which required me to further learn to scale and rotate objects, bisect and fill models and parts, as well as combine parts together. Once I put chicken on the coin, however, I realized he protruded rather far...so I had to learn to flatten models and shift them a bit for my purposes. I also found a free 3D EGA and added it to the void to fill up space. The only one I could find of decent quality was an M56...I would much prefer an earlier pattern, but alas none are to be found and I currently lack the skills to sculpt something so detailed myself...

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  11. Are there any dates in the book? There were two Daniel E Days i the Marine Corps, one entered in 1952 who was with 11th Marines in Korea, and the other in 1956 who was a food service Marine (cook) here at Quantico. There was also one who joined in July 1945, but no entries aside from that so he may not have finished boot camp, though he could be the one who entered in 1952

     

    Any service numbers in there? That would help


  12. 19 hours ago, Skysoldier80 said:

    I have seen a lot of dumb things to mention during my time in service, however, the first thing that came to mind was one of my track mechanics was riding in the back of a LMTV in Iraq After a shift working a ECP and I told him to not rest the barrel of his rifle on his foot in case it goes off.  Long Story short,  the next Day later I was coming back in from mission in my Bradley’s and was going to stop to pick the shift up and I had found out that on his was out to shift he had shot himself in the foot in the back of the LMTV.  All I could do was laugh.

    We had a dude do that in Iraq, too. Claimed a pen in his flak strap hit the trigger and the safety failed. We all called bull


  13. 2 hours ago, doinworkinvans said:

    As always ....having the thought of buying a "put-together" still gives me the heeby jeebies....but for some reason, there are alot of these items that I would not mind having.

     

    And to be honest there are 2 groups on the auction site that Jack bought from me that have items added.  So I know 100 % that they have been added to.

     

    Even still, I think if I had the money that these will undoubtedly go for, I would not mind having them.

    You might be surprised. While pandemicpalooza might not be significantly affected the market yet on onsie/twosie sales...I think it's absolutely going to result in lower sales prices of something this large and I fully expect many lots not to achieve opening bids...which may mean we'll see them reappear at lower prices


  14. 9 hours ago, manayunkman said:

    I’m used to auctions you attend.

     

    None of them give refunds or guarantees.

     

    Its up to you to know what you are doing.

    Sure, many auctions wash their hands of it. But considering that outside of eBay, I've never once mentioned the name of any auctions I patronize, I doubt you're used to the auctions I attend.

     

    Here's one with a lifetime guarantee... https://www.meigrayauctions.com/mobile/default.aspx

     

    Oh, look, another one... https://www.artemisgallery.com/

     

    If you want to fanboy up to a collection known and proven to have obvious humps, that's your business. Ultimately it is up to the buyer, but that doesn't mean that the community can't warn young or inexperienced collectors of something amiss and try to save them a few bucks and embarrassment 


  15. 3 hours ago, gwb123 said:

     

     

    We recommend you pay attention to this notice from the auctioneers -"All veteran attributions and histories have been provided by the consignor and are believed to be accurate but not guaranteed by the auctioneer."

     

     

     

    Rule one when buying from dealers of antiquities...no guarantee=steer clear. This is a well-known and much observed rules in TR and even ancient antiquity communities...but oft forgotten in the US field.

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