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  1. sidetrack Two: Every legitimate museum has a contract covering accesssion. Obtain and read BEFORE you donate especially if you are concerned with them selling or disposing of your donated stuff. Two which I have donated to (SWM Lubbock and NMUSAF Dayton) require irrevocable and unconditional title transfer and reserve the right to sell, trade or otherwise transfer donated material. This includes transfer of copyright and trademark. The SWM currently includes return to donor as a disposition. This I believe is on a first right of refusal basis of action if they decide to be rid of an item.
  2. Gator, try this page http://ww2gp.org/pdf/St.Louis_Silent_Ones.pdf There are several errors in the story you posted the url to. Klugh and Davis were from First Troop Carrier Command at Stout Field, not 71. The CG-4A could not carry 13 men and a Jeep. Carried a Jeep and 4 men or 13 men and two pilots. The "bolt" that held the bottom of the wing strut to the carry through tube fitting did not break, The starboard wing broke off, the port wing stayed to the ground. Check more stuff on Fbook and on our web site: http://www.ww2gp.org/ MI Buckeye PS, the second picture you
  3. His T ASN was during F/O rank. The F/O rank and T ASN were awarded when he finished his Advanced CG-4A flight training at Lubbock. He flew Normandy, SoFrance and Market as F/O. When promoted to 2Lt in Oct 1944 the T number disappeared and his O number replaced it. He flew Varsity as 2Lt. Pertinent records after promotion would show the O ASN with no reference to the old T ASN. As Doyler says, the musette bag was or could have been the first thing that was tossed. Although still a great find, especially that he flew 4 glider combat missions, looking at the images of this bag, does it's
  4. Question: If this man was promoted to 2Lt with O, thus losing the T ASN, did he receive a second musette bag with the O ASN stenciled onto it? Is there another bag out there that could sell higher? Fact: This man was promoted to 2Lt in October 1944. He did not fly just Normandy and SoFrance but also flew glider in Market and Varsity; received Air Medal and three Oak Leaf Clusters, plus Distinguished Flying Cross.
  5. I can not verify that his nic-name was "Ike", nor that there was not an Irudell K. Dye somewhere in the US Army. There was a glider pilot MOS 1026 name of Idellus K. Dye in the USAAF, Troop Carrier. This man graduated Advanced Glider pilot training at Victorville, class 43-3. This class graduated 5-Capt, 6-1Lt and 6-2Lt (Dye was one of the 2Lt), trained in-grade, along with 130+ F/O. All GP flight trainees were volunteers. He flew a glider in SoFrance, Market and Varsity; Air Medal and two OLC, Orange Lanyard (1982). He was variously attached to TCS/TCG; 44/316; 14/61 and 76/435 (Mk
  6. "Questions. An orange ribbon bar exist as well in the US. Is this representing the award of the OL?" Herman, I am not aware of a WWII orange ribbon bar representing orange lanyard, especially related to US glider pilot. Would seem to me that the physical nature of the Orange Lanyard and the way it is worn, as opposed to the required display space for medals dangling from ribbons, would not necessitate using a ribbon bar to represent the OL. C Day
  7. Herman, thanks for all your research. Everyone, I am still confused. 1. This discussion seems to illustrate to me that a lot of US Airborne "made" and wore their own Orange Lanyards, one might say, because "everyone" at the time (1945-46) was wearing the OL. 2. As for checking original or modern cord, the original were to be cotton per the Dutch gov. All US procured parachutes after January 1943 (per Wright Field) were nylon. That is, not silk and cotton. that does not mean ther were no silk/cotton parachutes 1944-45, it means a lot of them were not silk/cottton. Giving the end o
  8. The story as I know it: The lanyard in the first posted image with the Snap Swivel (Clip) looks to me to be the same as was presented by Col Herman Tummers of the Royal Netherlands Embassy, Washington, DC in Sept 1982 to US glider pilots who flew a glider in Market. I do not have one of these lanyards in front of me so there may be differences I am not recalling. This presentation was to US glider pilots only. No Troop Carrier power pilots were included, and the award was the result of the work by a US GP to correct an error that occurred in 1945-46. The error was a misunderstanding of the
  9. Jonesy, That bugger is defective! The blade is full of dents. You'd better send it back over here to my attention! CDay
  10. historyfixer, Great find! Re: 91st Squadron 439th Troop Carrier Group, 80th Airborne Anti-Aircraft Battalion Mudd was 91st Squadron 439th Troop Carrier Group but was NOT 80th Airborne Anti-Aircraft Battalion. He may have hauled the 80th in his glider. The C-47s, CG-4As and pilots belonged to Troop Carrier not Airborne. TC was charged with transporting the A/B men supplies and equipment. Mudd would have been awarded an Air Medal and is indicated as such in the NWW2GPA data base. Although it was not until 1982, he qualified for the Orange Lanyard. It is possible the OL was
  11. The Life War Glider is a publicity photo made at Wright Field or Clinton County Army Air Field, Wilmington, Ohio. The glider is the one and only XCG-3 with Glider Branch enlisted men posing as crew and riders. The driver is T/Sgt Robert Bange who was not a glider pilot. Pre-war, civilian, Bange crewed for National Soaring Champion Chet Decker (1Lt) who was assigned to the Glider Branch at Wright/CCAAF. Decker was a glider test pilot and a power, tug pilot in the Glider Branch. Decker and Robert Cardenas (BGen, USAF, Ret) were Col. Dent's favorite glider and tug pilots in the Glider Branch.
  12. RSR, Becasue the US pilots were not British, the Brits would/could not award them any patches or decorations for Sicily. However, Lt. Colonel G.J.B. Chatterton, Commander of the British Glider Pilot Regiment authorized those living US pilots directly involved to wear the British glider pilot wings if they received permission of BGen Paul Williams to wear the same. Then strangely, for the 19, he sent only 6 or 8 (I forget which number) British Glider Pilot wings for that purpose. We know that F/O Samek wore the Brit wings (to be worn on right pocket) but have not been able to verify who we
  13. FortJohn, Charles E. New graduated Advanced CG-4A training, Lubbock, class 43-9, G wings with rank of 2Lt. He did not fly a glider into Normandy. He did fly glider (CG-4A) in SoFrance, Market and Varsity. For these three missions he received Air Medal and two OLC, plus Orange Lanyard for Market. He apparently was 1Lt by March of 1945. I do not have DoD. What I see of the lines on the maps does not coincide with the glider serial routes for Normandy. Glider pilots were qualified to pilot L type aircraft and fly combat/resupply as co-pilot in C-47. Please do me a favor and email me:
  14. Jonesy, A very distinctive item in this group is the Ruptured Duck. There must have been maybe 15 million of them made and distributed to the men who were discharged. Has anyone any idea how many RDs were made and how many variations in cloth, metal, plastic or other details? Safe flight, see you Wed-Thurs. C Day
  15. Kat, I was using the first date such as is shown for Beach, 14 Oct 42. I can not make out text of the column headers. I have always thought, apparently incorrectly, that WAC was Women's Army Corps and WAAC was Women's Army Air Corps. I have never heard of or read of a WAC or a WAAC glider mechanic. All glider personnel from glider pilots to mechanics were USAAF including the Repair and Reclamation Sqdns (Heavy) that assembled the gliders in England. Glider pilots and mechanics were Troop Carrier Groups and Squadrions. My guess is these ladies were assigned, not to the USAAF, but to one
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