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  1. I think I was finally able to identify the officer who owned these insignia, and to my surprise and somewhat disappointment he was not a West Virginian after all. I found a 2nd Lt. Ric*hard Hold*en from NY who served in Company D of the 105th Infantry in 1940.  The ribbon bar seems to corroborate this because it has the proper campaign credits for the 105th and lacks the Philippines Liberation ribbon. The only apparent problems with this ID is that after a brutal banzai attack on Saipan Wikipedia says that there was only one surviving officer from 1st BN, so either he was transferred out of D Co. or I have the wrong man. It also seems strange, although not impossible that he would have an occupation ribbon because the 27th Div spent so little time in Japan after the war.

  2. 1 hour ago, BILL THE PATCH said:

    Really nice, great find

    Thanks, I have not seen a DUI that used the Japanese quilted silk construction before and liked the way they used bullion to accent it. I think it is interesting they only used a diagonal stitching on the smaller DUI as apposed to the X design found on the larger quilted patches. Unfortunately, the uniform only had one of them and there was no evidence it had a second, but I can't imagine these would have been cheap for a soldier to have made to only wear on his khaki shirt. 

  3. Well since the Rest Camp DI ended up not being what I thought it was here is a great 61st artillery DI on a khaki shoulder loop that I found on a uniform at an antique store this morning. Honestly I think this could be the best bullion DI in my collection so far, the Japanese construction is very detailed. It is worth noting that this is the Korean War version of the DI because it has the oozlefitch added to the top left of the design. I may end up posting the rest of this uniform elsewhere on the forum later as I try researching it because the SSI on the shoulder might be Japanese made as well but I am not really experienced and can't really tell the difference. 

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  4. Huh, thanks for pointing that out, I had not noticed that and you are right when I added British to my search I got a lot more results and it does seem to be a British camp. 

     

    I'm still not 100% sure it is a british regimental crest however because from what little I know about them it is extremely different then the normal heraldry you see in a british design, plus most of those have loops to fasten them to to the uniform. I guess I should find some British insignia collectors to see what they think.

     

    I am a little surprised you didn't comment on the theory for the possibly misidentified 114th Signal.

     

    Thanks again Tredhed.

  5. 22 minutes ago, tredhed2 said:

    In the July Sept 1998 Trading Post there is an article about the US Riviera Recreation Area. Provided R & R for EM only, and they had a patch. 

     

    No reason your Rest Camp insignia isn’t a DI. However, it appears to be for UK soldiers, not sure if they had DIs, or unit metal badges. Above my pay grade.

    Thank you tredhed, I will have to read that article because it sounds interesting. What makes you say it could be UK? The construction seems consistent with an Italian made pin and I think there might be a broader equivalent in the British Army for regimental crests but they look very different from their American counterpart and I could not imagine one being this colorful. 

  6. 30 minutes ago, BILL THE PATCH said:

    Hey ray, nice pick ups, in the first picture up side down one, the hand painted German dui , I was going after that last week, or the week before on eBay. It went pretty cheap if I remember. Love the rest camp dui
     

    Thank you Bill, I realized the first one is upside down. I tried fixing it before I posted it but it seems to have not worked. And you are right the ETO patch was part of that group that sold on Ebay, I wouldn't say it was necessarily cheap but I am pleased with the price because also included was this great 573rd AAA pin, normally they have some paint loss but this one is just about perfect. Besides those two there were some other German made pins but nothing really special. 

     

    And thanks, there is a chance someone could post next that the Rest Camp isn't an DUI but so far it passes the duck test. So since it looks like a DUI, is made like a DUI, and has the name of a military organization in the area the pin was made I'm going to call it a DUI.  

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  7. Up next is a unique painted ETO- strategic Communications patch type DI. I have no idea how the pin was made but it seems to be rather crude with the pinback set into the back of the pin as apposed to afixed onto it. The paint job is pretty good however and luckily it is still in pretty good condition. This is the type of theater made DI that I love finding and given previous reactions to some of my theater made DI I thought it would be a good one to share. 

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  8. Next is another rare pin that is listed in the ASMIC catalog as being for the 114th Signal Bn, I think this is actually the wrong classification and I think it is actually for the 114th Signal Radio Intelligence Company (or later the Signal Service Company). This Company was a small unit that monitored enemy radio activity to track troop movements, and they were the unit tasked with monitoring enemy communications in the Arden forest before and during the Battle of the Bulge. I read one account from a Vet where he said that the unit detected the German activity and build up and reported it but that the reports were dismissed. Not sure the truth of that but it shows how potentially historic this piece is. 

     

    The evidence I have that it might be misidentified is that I noticed that I have never found any mention of the 114th Signal BN leaving the United States making it hard to have a German made DI, and that the 114th Signal Radio Intelligence Company (or Signal Service Company) information mentioned the unit had a DI.  Additionally, the Company was stationed in Germany throughout the occupation period and into the cold war.  I also found one site: https://usarmygermany.com/Sont.htm?https&&&usarmygermany.com/Units/ASA Europe/USAREUR_ASAE.htm that shows a similar insignia as the DI for the 114th Signal Service Company when it was in Germany during the occupation.

     

    Regardless of what unit actually wore this DI it is a really interesting design that is rarely seen. Again all feedback is welcome.

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  9. Now it is time to show some of the rarer pieces I have found. Up first is one that was difficult to put an ID to and is uncatalogued but I believe is a rare DI for the staff of 55 Rest Camp. From what I can find the 55 Rest Camp was a camp in Venice Italy operated during the war so that enlisted air crews could recover from the stress of aerial combat. The location was at the "Excelsior" hotel in Venice which is depicted in the bottom half of the pin. Skiing became a popular past-time in the post-war era and from some reading I have done it was a pastime engaged in by soldiers on leave. The individual I bought this from told me that after the war the Cortina region, which is a ski region very near Venice was used as a R&R location by the allies. I have not been able to confirm this but it seems to be depicted in the upper half of the DI.  It seems that post war when you see a lot of obscure DI popping up for small units the staff of this rest camp had one made showing the two main R&R activities offered as well as a view of their hotel base in the background. Overall it makes for a colorful DI of a neat design. Any input on the ID of this pin is appreciated because it is still a work in progress.

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  10. Hi guys, it has been a few months so I thought I would share some of the more interesting finds I made in the last 2 months which do not turn up that often. First group the noteworthy inclusions are the two Railway Operating Battalion DI on the top row and the two armored DI on the bottom, the best is probably the 78th Recon Group DI. This is not the painted version seen in the "Best of the Best" ASMIC article but I believe the enamel version is still a rare piece from a not too frequently seen unit from the 78th Div. 

     

    In the second post the notable pieces are the 3 engineer DI which are pretty uncommon and the 2nd QM on the bottom which is a BB&B piece, a very sought after and high quality maker. 

     

    Edit: I'm sorry about the pictures, I edited them to be right side up on my computer so I do not know why they are inverted again.

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  11. Thanks! I look forward to presenting it, this is my first KIA grouping so I am pretty excited by it and want to do it right. At the moment I am still sifting through big bags of collar insignia for the ones that match what the brothers would have worn. Unfortunately all of the common stuff like collar brass got dumped in several big bags making it more expensive and harder to track down.

  12. Thanks! That bullion 2nd armored is definitely one of the best patches in my collection either on or off a uniform.  The 63rd/36th uniform is something I have been looking for a while now, not only because it has two divisions I did not have examples of yet but because of the combat leader stripe. I agree that it seems to be a not too uncommon patch combination.  From some research I did the 63rd was used to take high point vets from other units and rotate them back to the states, which makes sense then that you would see combinations like this.  I have also noticed that combat leader stripes seem most common on uniforms that are double patched to two divisions, although I have never seen an explanation for that.

  13. Wow, that is really cool I wouldn't say you are stuck with the uniform at all and I am sure if the research is included you could find a buyer for it if you wanted. I am normally against changing uniforms, but in cases such as this where they are clearly not how they should be I would say restore it to how it should have been. It seems like you are lucky here that you know what ribbons he would have worn, that way there is not a chance of over embellishing. Out of curiosity are the posts on a pair of pilot wings the same length as on a CIB so that they could be easily switched without creating new pin holes?

  14. So I am sure now that it is the same man, I found more stuff from the brothers and according to the owner there was more stuff brought in with the lot but when I asked where it was I got a shrug and told that it was probably scattered around the store by now. Along with some patches what I have found however is a letter for a Miss Delight Matthess which has a prayer for people serving overseas, I found online that Miss Matthess was the wife of Mrs. Delmar Jump as of 1946, and that Mrs. Jump was Williams sister... soooo I am going to assume that one of the articles I found is wrong as to how she is related but clearly she is involved with the family in some way.

     

    The second think that I found was a Signal Corps Message book marked "Troop I, 113" Cav". There are a bunch of interesting messages in the book and some code, however the one message dated by year in the book puts it at 1942 when the unit was training so everything in it is likely made up training scenareos not actual enemy contact. This would also probebly explain how the family had it after Sgt. Robert Matthess was killed in France. 

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  15. Thanks, now I just have to go back and buy the 9th division patches the shop has and anything else I might find. I guess I should also be on the lookout for anything that could have belonged to his brother. Once I print off some of the news paper articles and get a riker box this should make a nice little display in his honor. 

  16. Thanks, I agree the last name is a unique one, which is probably why it was relatively easy to find the information on him and his brother although I forgot to check the ww2 enlistment site so thank you for reminding me about that. WW2 dog tags are something that I rarely find in the wild for some reason so I have very little experience with them and your opinion certainly helps. I have only found one other in the last 3 years collecting, also to an officer, but it looks like this pair was certainly worth rescuing from the store.

     

    Also that is an awesome pair of dog tags to have found, really neat to see anything from the rangers. 

  17. 11 minutes ago, USdog said:

    He would have gotten a new dog tag set and serial number when he became an officer.

    Thanks for the quick reply confirming that.  I think this tag is most likely his then, he must have sent his old ones home when he got promoted. From what I can find he entered the service in Mid 1941 so he must have seen quite a bit of service. There is some 9th Division stuff at the store that stands a pretty good chance of his so hopefully some other stuff turns up.

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  18. I just got back from a local antique store where I found a dogtag named to a Will*iam B. Matt*hess, and after a very quick internet search I discovered that there was a 2nd Lt. by that name buried in the same city as where I found the tag who was killed on March 8th, 1945 presumably when the 47th Inf. 9th Div was crossing the Rhine River at Remagen. I am pretty sure they have to be the same person but the problem I have is that the dog tag has an enlisted serial number instead of an officers one.

     

    The question that I have is, if the soldier had started out as enlisted and been promoted would he be issued a new service number and dog tags meaning it is possible that they are his? Thanks for looking and I will post the tag soon as well as anything else of his I might find. 

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